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Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: How

Post by jackles » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:34 am

how can a brain limited and localised to an event have a nonlocal consciousness how can that be.how could a brain a limited thing .be connect to limitlessness.the brain has to be holagraphic in nature.scratchin my holagram on this one.

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Re: How

Post by James Markham » Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:45 am

I think the answer is that what we experience as matter, is not in fact localised. When we focus, and differentiate, we apply filters that are not natural or inherent to the objective realm, so localisation is an applied condition, not an actual state.

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Re: How

Post by Ginkgo » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:53 am

jackles wrote:how can a brain limited and localised to an event have a nonlocal consciousness how can that be.how could a brain a limited thing .be connect to limitlessness.the brain has to be holagraphic in nature.scratchin my holagram on this one.

Jackles I recommend, "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot. It is a marvelous book and gives a very good layman's explanation for a non-classical universe and our place in it.

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Re: How

Post by jackles » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:07 am

thanks for both very good replies.

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Re: How

Post by Arising_uk » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:37 am

jackles wrote:how can a brain limited and localised to an event have a nonlocal consciousness how can that be. ...
It can't. Show me this 'nonlocal consciousness' ?
how could a brain a limited thing .be connect to limitlessness. ...
Define this 'limitlessness'?
the brain has to be holagraphic in nature.scratchin my holagram on this one.
Why? With 100 billion neurons and 100 trillion possible connections in the neural-net that is the CNS I think we have more than enough to be going on with without the need to start introducing holography.

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Re: How

Post by HexHammer » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:21 pm

jackles wrote:how can a brain limited and localised to an event have a nonlocal consciousness how can that be.how could a brain a limited thing .be connect to limitlessness.the brain has to be holagraphic in nature.scratchin my holagram on this one.
This is totally incoherent nonsens, make a clear post!

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Re: How

Post by jackles » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:12 pm

put in simple terms nonlocality is consciousness .and consciousness is omni presents to thought.

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Re: How

Post by HexHammer » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:24 pm

jackles wrote:put in simple terms nonlocality is consciousness .and consciousness is omni presents to thought.
The toothfairy told you this?

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Re: How

Post by jackles » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:30 pm

even if the the tooth fairy did hexhamer.its still the truth.ha ha

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Re: How

Post by HexHammer » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:54 pm

jackles wrote:even if the the tooth fairy did hexhamer.its still the truth.ha ha
In scientific terms, it's pure nonsens, but in philosophically terms it's mental mastubation and rainbow chasing.

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Re: How

Post by jackles » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:45 pm

in scientific terms nonlocality is nonlocality and as such has no relative size in any terms thus it nonlocality must be omni present across any size in any terms and that includes the universe from start to finish.and by finish i mean black hole eventless centres .it nonlocality at the other end of scale is omni present in the quantum world so it would be at once a common denominator and omni present to everything in existance..and that must include thought as consciousness.
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Re: How

Post by HexHammer » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:19 pm

If it's quantum entanglement you are trying to describe, make it more clear, as of now it makes no sens and you got it wrong!

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Re: How

Post by jackles » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:42 pm

hex if it makes no scence how do you know i got it wrong.

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Re: How

Post by HexHammer » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:01 pm

jackles wrote:hex if it makes no scence how do you know i got it wrong.
If someone says 2+2=5 it makes no sense, very simple and thus I know the person got it wrong.

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Re: How

Post by jackles » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:11 pm

nonlocality does not make any scence in event terms.cos its eventlessnessssszzzzz.ha ha.

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