The thoughts of Nisargadatta Maharaj

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Walker
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:43 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:02 pm You have something against butchers?

He's simply including Eskimos into his schemata.
You have something for conception?
How about, a perceived display of ignorance, if not bigotry, from classifying butchers as "sick," and "satanic."

Butchers are necessary to society.

Are you one of those extremists who also labels meat eaters as "sick" and "satanic?"

Nothing like a warm cup of blubber on a cold arctic night in the igloo, eh?
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Re: The thoughts of Nisargadatta Maharaj

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Walker wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:09 am
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:43 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:02 pm You have something against butchers?

He's simply including Eskimos into his schemata.
You have something for conception?
How about, a perceived display of ignorance, if not bigotry, from classifying butchers as "sick," and "satanic."

Butchers are necessary to society.

Are you one of those extremists who also labels meat eaters as "sick" and "satanic?"

Nothing like a warm cup of blubber on a cold arctic night in the igloo, eh?
Life is a sick game played by sick people who love playing sick games, and to add to the sickness, they then think it is ok to impose their love for the blood of another onto the unborn.

When you know that eating yourself alive is a sick game, most intelligent people would not, if they were to really choose it, not want to indulge in such sickness.
Personally, I'd rather be left alone to bask in the eternal realm of the unborn forever and ever, thank you very much. So the fact that I have been dragged into this sick game, just forces me to have to play it. It never occurs to some people that it's a sick game, and that they could stop playing anytime they wanted...Hey, if you like playing the game of eating yourself alive, then whatever turns you on, just don't drag me into your addiction.

ALL sentient life has the same fear of impending doom and dread and they all squeal when they are being slaughted at the hands of another. As for me, I'd rather not join in with the squealing party, if it's all the same to you.

I think it is time to be more mindful of inviting others to join the squealing party. Especially when those others might not feel the same way about the idea as say those who do. It's not our place to assume others will enjoy this squealing game just because we do.

Imagine a child telling his parent he wants to be a soldier when he grows up, he wants to fight in wars, and wants to know what it feels like to be blown to pieces on the battlefield, and that his whole purpose for living was to feel the pain of dying from his injuries, well that's the stupid game people are playing on this earth, that's just one of many many other stupid dumb experiences we want to play while on this earth....well fine if that's what you call a wonderful way to live, just dont expect me to agree with you.

There is no fucking loving God, hello!!
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Re: The thoughts of Nisargadatta Maharaj

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Walker wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:09 am
Butchers are necessary to society.

Are you one of those extremists who also labels meat eaters as "sick" and "satanic?"

Nothing like a warm cup of blubber on a cold arctic night in the igloo, eh?
By the way, isn't it a bit extreme to lable someone as an ''extremist'' just for having an opinion that slaughtering sentient life forms is a sick thing to do? ... has that lable been indoctrinated into your mind, as something you are just mindlessly brainwashed to believe to exist? how awful, imagine living in a world full of extremists.

Nature is an unnecesary psycho killer because it doesn't have a brain or the intelligence to know it is a psycho killer. There is no necessary requirement that needs the need to butcher itself in order to exist. That life has evolved the way it has just proves what a mindless brutal cruel event life on earth really is.

Intelligence only evolved when the consciousness of the sentient organism reached a level of sophistication that meant it was able to fully comprehend that the sensation of sentience was to be able to experience the effects of pain and was able to inform itself that pain was a disgusting and vile sensation. Nature evolved to inform itself that life is suffering and that suffering is a bad idea. Humans have been in denial about this obvious obnoxious realisation. The idea that life is good only appeared to be the case when life is seen as not bad, good only became known in the brief absence of bad.. To live, and KNOW you live, as in be able to inform yourself that you are a feeling sentient organism is the intelligence to know that pain is always a bad idea, not good. Humans find a way to distract themselves from this obvious and actual truth that is nature which is totally void of all sense and reason and purpose, and that total boredom is feared by most humans and is why they attempt to distract themselves with the idea of pleasure and material things,money being most popular.

''In order to cope with this, we equip ourselves with “mechanisms for creating positive values that act as a defense (...) mechanisms that the human must constantly keep active against the advances of the diminishing being and its three types of friction.” (CABRERA, 2018) The positive values we create are able to postpone and mitigate different types of friction. They are even capable of making us forget our condition completely. But they don't make the frictions go away. So, it would be useless to be immortal, as these frictions will continue to exist. In the unlikely event that we are able to control physical and even emotional pain through future technologies, we would still continue to grapple with the other types of friction, such as boredom, which together with pain is the basic condition underlying human existence (SCHOPENHAUER, 2014, 2015).''



''At birth, human beings are endowed with a kind of decreasing being (or 'decaying' being), a being that starts to end as soon as it emerges, and whose final end can occur at any moment. From the moment they first appear, humans are affected by three kinds of frictions: physical pain (in the form of diseases, accidents and catastrophes to which they are always exposed); discouragement (in the form of a 'lack of will' to continue acting, from the simple tedium vitae to severe forms of depression); and, finally, exposure to the aggressive actions of other humans (in the form of discrimination, chatter, gossip, slander, exclusion, persecution, injustice, physical and psychological torture, and even extermination), themselves also subjected to the three types of friction. (CABRERA, 2018)''


All I have are my humble opinions...which doesn't mean I am an extremist incapable of compassion and empathy. :shock:
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