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Re: get serious

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mickthinks wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:27 pm Huh? It's because they are that they don't.
What an outrage! I'll have you know that this forum presently holds BOTH of the single best philosopher ever to have lived, along with at least five different people who can explain to you in depth exactly why philosophy is a failed endeavour and what it should be doing to become a completely important way to blend religion with science which is quite obviously a thing everyone should want to do right this minute. Who could possibly scorn such an excellent resource?
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Re: get serious

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[quote=FlashDangerpants post_id=483170 time=1607107314 user_id=11800]
[quote=mickthinks post_id=480916 time=1605976048 user_id=59]
Huh? It's because they are that they don't.
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What an outrage! I'll have you know that this forum presently holds BOTH of the single best philosopher ever to have lived, along with at least five different people who can explain to you in depth exactly why philosophy is a failed endeavour and what it should be doing to become a completely important way to blend religion with science which is quite obviously a thing everyone should want to do right this minute. Who could possibly scorn such an excellent resource?
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*probably the best philosopher ever to have lived. As that philosopher, i can tell you with some detail reasons why philosophy as a subject matter is stalled, but it's not a failed endeavor as a whole, only the way it's typically, and most of all academically, done.
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Re: get serious

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Advocate wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:46 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:41 pm
mickthinks wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:27 pm Huh? It's because they are that they don't.
What an outrage! I'll have you know that this forum presently holds BOTH of the single best philosopher ever to have lived, along with at least five different people who can explain to you in depth exactly why philosophy is a failed endeavour and what it should be doing to become a completely important way to blend religion with science which is quite obviously a thing everyone should want to do right this minute. Who could possibly scorn such an excellent resource?
*probably the best philosopher ever to have lived. As that philosopher, i can tell you with some detail reasons why philosophy as a subject matter is stalled, but it's not a failed endeavor as a whole, only the way it's typically, and most of all academically, done.
Hahahaha. Every time you claim to be the *probably the greatest philosopher ever to live, I'm going to to remind you that you posted this thread.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=30289&hilit=scotsman
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[quote=FlashDangerpants post_id=483170 time=1607107314 user_id=11800]

What an outrage! I'll have you know that this forum presently holds BOTH of the single best philosopher ever to have lived, along with at least five different people who can explain to you in depth exactly why philosophy is a failed endeavour and what it should be doing to become a completely important way to blend religion with science which is quite obviously a thing everyone should want to do right this minute. Who could possibly scorn such an excellent resource?
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*probably the best philosopher ever to have lived. As that philosopher, i can tell you with some detail reasons why philosophy as a subject matter is stalled, but it's not a failed endeavor as a whole, only the way it's typically, and most of all academically, done.
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Hahahaha. Every time you claim to be the *probably the greatest philosopher ever to live, I'm going to to remind you that you posted this thread.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=30289&hilit=scotsman
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Well i'm not going to respond every time with the fact that you're confusing a technical and a vernacular understanding of the fallacy, and willfully so.
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Re: get serious

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Advocate wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:04 pm Well i'm not going to respond every time with the fact that you're confusing a technical and a vernacular understanding of the fallacy, and willfully so.
That should be fun for me.

Please explain how determining that there is such a thing as a true scotsman fixes the no true scotsman thing in whichever of those senses you hope will get you out of the sane and simple alternative of just saying "oops I misunderstood the problem".

What is the vernacular understanding of an informal fallacy supposed to be?
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Re: get serious

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[quote=FlashDangerpants post_id=483184 time=1607109166 user_id=11800]
[quote=Advocate post_id=483182 time=1607108659 user_id=15238]
Well i'm not going to respond every time with the fact that you're confusing a technical and a vernacular understanding of the fallacy, and willfully so.
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That should be fun for me.

Please explain how determining that there is such a thing as a true scotsman fixes the no true scotsman thing in whichever of those senses you hope will get you out of the sane and simple alternative of just saying "oops I misunderstood the problem".

What is the vernacular understanding of an informal fallacy supposed to be?
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...all of which was covered in that thread.
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Oh, well, erm, thanks for the amazing philosophy, you are going to do very very well.
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[quote=FlashDangerpants post_id=483207 time=1607111927 user_id=11800]
Oh, well, erm, thanks for the amazing philosophy, you are going to do very very well.
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So do you want to say something about the OP or move to the other topic or what?
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Advocate wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:11 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:58 pm Oh, well, erm, thanks for the amazing philosophy, you are going to do very very well.
So do you want to say something about the OP or move to the other topic or what?
Is there any need? I made my point with trademark sarcasm, and then you came along and demonstrated it to be fair comment. we're sort of done unless I want to spend a bunch of time picking on you for giggles, which doesn't seem all that fair. But more importantly, also not all that interesting.
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Advocate wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:20 pm If Philosophy Now was serious about philosophy they'd be drawing regularly from this forum for topics and authors.
HAHAHA.
I think were people on the Forum to actually read and then take seriously anything that appears in the magazine, there might be a tiny bit of scope for the magazine to take the Forum seriously, rather than consider it an embrarrassing mutant sibling.
But right now the contributions to the Forum are rather palid.
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:20 pm But right now the contributions to the Forum are rather palid.
There would be significant improvement if you stopped posting.
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But right now the contributions to the Forum are rather palid.
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Not as palid as my bust of Pallas.
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Re: get serious

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I noticed that many people aren't happy with what is happening on the forum, so I decided to express my opinion. What exactly is the problem? Is it the toxicity?

No one likes to waste time on trolls or pointless debates. But isn't arguing the same as a discussion? Isn't discussion the same thing that characterizes a person as a thinker?

Just don't take it all to heart and try it yourself!
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Kenny92 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 6:13 am I noticed that many people aren't happy with what is happening on the forum, so I decided to express my opinion. What exactly is the problem? Is it the toxicity?

No one likes to waste time on trolls or pointless debates. But isn't arguing the same as a discussion? Isn't discussion the same thing that characterizes a person as a thinker?

Just don't take it all to heart and try it yourself!
Most folks are either teachers or critics. This is to be expected after a certain age.

The authentic student is a rare breed, especially after a certain age. This is to be expected, because if an old man or woman doesn't know a thing or two, of what purpose was the road leading to the end?

A method often seen in these parts is a teacher or critic posing as a student, judge the degree of sincerity as you must.

A thinker can hone the fine points of what ossification protects.
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Kenny92 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 6:13 am I noticed that many people aren't happy with what is happening on the forum, so I decided to express my opinion. What exactly is the problem? Is it the toxicity?

No one likes to waste time on trolls or pointless debates. But isn't arguing the same as a discussion? Isn't discussion the same thing that characterizes a person as a thinker?

Just don't take it all to heart and try it yourself!
This isn't a philosophy forum so there's nothing to argue about, philosophy here died years ago. It's an online mental institue / trash can for schizophrenics and all kinds of other folks who got banned from every other forum, but desperately need an outlet, so they ended up here.

If you have a mild interest in studying the various forms of human insanity, in order to get a better insight into the human mind in general, this place is one of the best.
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