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Moral values and attitudes aren't objective. Everything's objective. Everything that exists - exists. Even if it "only" exists in the heads of humans. This is the default position until humans invent the objective/subjective distinction, conceptually split everything into two and then and...

VA's accusation of straw-manning is a projection, derived from Kant's spurious distinction between noumena and phenomena. It's spurious because, if (as Kant says, and VA and I agree) there are no noumena, then there are also no phenomena. In other words, if there are no things-in-themselves, there ...

Moral values and attitudes aren't objective. Everything's objective. Everything that exists - exists. Even if it "only" exists in the heads of humans. This is the default position until humans invent the objective/subjective distinction, conceptually split everything into two and then and...

I have a reluctance to kill members of my own species, for any reason. Does that make me unusual? Most killers kill reluctantly. Having gained an insight into your character by the way you conduct yourself here, it doesn't surprise me that you have experience of self defence. :| No shit. Apparently...

Factual premise: Something in the human brain stops us murdering people. Moral conclusion: Therefore, (it's a fact that) murder is morally wrong. Non sequitur. Even if true, non-moral premises can't entail moral conclusions. The end. Moral objectivity is dead in the water. What a dumb fucking cun t...

If humans have an instinctive reluctance to kill members of their own species, that might be described as a behavioural characteristic, rather than morality. We don't have reluctance to kill members of our own species. We have reluctance to murder members of our own species. Killing in self-defence...

Since you are under no moral obligation to respond to my comments in a way that makes sense, I don't suppose I have any right to complain. :( What's confusing you? If murder is not objectively wrong then I can murder you If I want to. What's to stop me? Morality doesn't exist objectively. If murder...

Since you are under no moral obligation to respond to my comments in a way that makes sense, I don't suppose I have any right to complain. :( What's confusing you? If murder is not objectively wrong then I can murder you If I want to. What's to stop me? Morality doesn't exist objectively. If murder...

I'm not sure that simply refraining from verbally abusing him in order to comply with your own sense of right and wrong could be looked on as imposing your way of life on him. Objectively, that's not for me to decide. Neither am I sure how your sense of right and wrong could be objective. :? Pretty...

Only if you don't have a subjective sense of right and wrong. My objective sense of right and wrong tells me that it's absolutely not OK to treat Peter Holmes the way I am treating him. Of course, I don't want to impose my way of life on him - that would be objectively wrong. So as long as he conti...

Dick-for-Brains Reasoning at its Spectacular Best. 1 It's objectively morally wrong to murder someone. 2 It's not objectively morally wrong to murder someone who denies moral objectivity. What a dumb cun t! Why is this basic reasoning confusing you? It is objectively wrong in my philosophy. It's no...

Are you saying that I am doing something objectively wrong to Peter Holmes even though Peter Holmes himself says otherwise? I was curious about the reason for it, not the rightness or wrongness of it. Who says there needs to be a reason? Peter Holmes claims there is no objective right and wrong, so...

Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:14 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:58 am
What do you mean? There's nothing objectively wrong with the way I am treating Peter Holmes.

I doubt that Peter Holmes' attitude towards the matter is as objective as yours.

Maybe that's the problem?

But it doesn't seem like it's my problem.

The penis is an unpleasant, intellectually challenged and self-confessed troll that doesn't like its inadequacy being exposed, its claims falsified, and its 'arguments' demolished. Hence the abuse. I thought you must have killed his dog, or stolen his wife, to deserve that much animosity. This is s...

Kant's idiocy is haunting you, Peter "Dumb Cun t" Holmes, to this very day! I wonder what Peter Holmes did to you to earn such extreme hostility. :| What do you mean? There's nothing objectively wrong with the way I am treating Peter Holmes. Ask him - he agrees with me. If I am doing some...