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...you won't give me the information... You have it. You have an abundance of videos of actual parents quoting from actual books, citing specific cases. Now, you may agree or disagree with their objections. That's not an interesting question, because people are allowed to differ somewhat on what th...

And I knew you wouldn't be able to back up your allegations about "perverted" books. And yet, I did...and you couldn't be bothered even to go and look. You said so, yourself. You said: " We're talking about the "educators," particularly in Florida, who have been grooming ch...

Well I don't care all that much, so I won't check the videos. Yep. I knew it. And I knew you wouldn't be able to back up your allegations about "perverted" books. And yet, I did...and you couldn't be bothered even to go and look. You said so, yourself. What would your criteria be? How do ...

Well I don't care all that much, so I won't check the videos. Yep. I knew it. But as for you, what's your cutoff point? What sort of material would you consider appropriate to keep from children? Or is there none that you would consider deserving of keeping from them? If it were my job to decide wh...

Because there can be no reasons provided to support them. They're matters of taste , not of reason. Nobody thus needs to agree. And no line of reasoning or argument can be produced by the subjectivist complainer to induce another person to believe that he/she is obligated to share that personal com...

You made the claim that "perverted" books were being read to school children, and it surprises me that such a thing could be the case, so I am asking for the names of the books you have condemned as being perverted so that I can see for myself. Please, just tell me the book titles. I've p...

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:37 am Either God knows which of the five roads we are going to choose, or he doesn't.

He does. Just as I knew you'd reply. You could have chosen not to. You could have chosen to reply differently. But you replied as you saw fit, and I was quite right about my prediction.

But I didn't make you.

So by way of subjectivism, you've got no grounds for objection now. This was the problem I was pointing out to you earlier. Why would subjective opinions fail to constitute reasonable opinions? Because there can be no reasons provided to support them. They're matters of taste , not of reason. Nobod...

I don't have a position on what books should be given to children. Really? So if some pornographer or groomer wishes to expose your daughter to all manner of explicit material, and she's only eight years old, you don't have a position on that? And you don't regard that as a moral failing? :shock:

Nobody in your entire life, or anybody else's, made somebody DO something simply by KNOWING he would, Will. They're just different verbs. I'm sure we both understand that make in itself is two different verbs: coerce and create. Well, yes...and more, actually. "Make" has several synonyms....

Yes, eight year olds are "banned" from drinking alcohol and owning handguns. And legitimately so. No mentally-healthy person would think that giving children alcohol, drugs, a driver's license or a gun at any age would be a loving or responsible thing to do. So the question is not, "...

You can't know what it contains until you've read it for yourself. Again, not true. If you know it contains vile material, there's no excuse for allowing it for children. You don't have to drink all the poison to know a thing is poisoned. You have made reference to "perverted" books, and ...

... knowledge does not equal making . If God foreknew what would happen in this world, and he made this world, he made everything that happens in this world happen. Notice how you had to equivocate the verb: you had to turn "know" into "made." That's because they're different ve...

No, you absolutely cannot condemn a book if you haven't even read it. Yes, you can...so long as what you know it contains is age-inappropriate. Any exerpt will do. In fact, it's immoral to do less. You can't know what it contains until you've read it for yourself. Again, not true. If you know it co...

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:50 pm No, you absolutely cannot condemn a book if you haven't even read it.

Yes, you can...so long as what you know it contains is age-inappropriate. Any exerpt will do. In fact, it's immoral to do less.

What's really immoral is to have no standards for what your children are exposed to.