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Would anyone actually like to discuss art?

“Call it.” “Well … I don’t know what I’m calling it for.” “This coin has been traveling for 22 years, Nick. And now it’s here. And you’ve got to call it. I can’t call it for you. It wouldn’t be fair.” “Well … what do I stand to gain?” “Everything. You stand to gain everything, Nick.” “All right then...

So for those like davidm, dubious, and Greta, art is synonymous with expression. There is no difference. Whatever a person calls art is art by definition. Can you imagine a person writing an instruction book on how to play politically correct chess. It has the premise that people don't feel good wh...

So for those like davidm, dubious, and Greta, art is synonymous with expression. There is no difference. Whatever a person calls art is art by definition. Can you imagine a person writing an instruction book on how to play politically correct chess. It has the premise that people don't feel good wh...

What Cézanne, Van Gogh, Gauguin and others of that era did was to liberate art from the shackles of brute realism, of slavish representationalism. They free it like a bird from a cage, so that art can soar. It's just paint on canvas and, despite the level of technical skill involved in putting it t...

While I don’t think I agree with Nick about practically anything, I respect him for putting time, thought and effort into his posts. For those of you who want to post 140 characters or less of content-free snark, why not just move on to a more sensible medium for you, like Tw***er. (Can’t bring myse...

Dubious wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:19 am All art is metaphor which each person translates differently....and that's all there is to art. Aside from that it has no value whatsoever.

Well, that' s nice to know. Thanks for an extensive, thoughtful analysis.

What Cézanne, Van Gogh, Gauguin and others of that era did was to liberate art from the shackles of brute realism, of slavish representationalism. They free it like a bird from a cage, so that art can soar. It's just paint on canvas and, despite the level of technical skill involved in putting it t...

I could have predicted that Cezanne would leave you cold. There are no “vibrations” and there is no “objective art.” You still have given no reason to classify the sphinx, Notre Dame and The Last Supper as “objective art” outside of mere assertion. I am also confident that when you draw your exclusi...

I should probably expand upon the Ninth Wave. First, unlike you, I propose to make no distinction between “objective” and “subjective” art; and certainly no distinction between “this is art” and “this is not art.” Any such distinction is necessarily subjective, and hence self-refuting; no one in the...

Nick_A wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:35 pm Aivazovsky bores you. Do you consider yourself a greater judge of art than all these people at an exhibition?

Yes.

You have not provided an answer to what you quoted from me. I’m asking you what makes the sphinx, Notre Dame and The Last Supper “objective” art, as opposed to –- what? Can you give some examples of subjective art which, by your lights I suppose, are not really works of art at all? You quoted but di...

I’d like to ask Nick some questions. When asked for examples of objective art, you cite the Sphinx, the Notre Dame cathedral and Da Vinci’s painting The Last Supper. What connects these three? You don’t say, other than that: “They are all based on objective principles we are only beginning to unders...

So if your OA told you beforehand that LHO would kill JFK are you saying it could then have been otherwise? Of course. But if it were to go differently, then the OA would tell you differently. If I choose the ham sandwich over the bagel the present has changed to one with the ham sandwich in the pa...

Personally I think that if there is to be free-will or free-choice then the future cannot be fixed which is what you appear to be suggesting? Of course the future can be fixed and free will maintained. The key is to understand that fixity is not necessity. The past is fixed. Yet the past is not nec...