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by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:34 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?
Replies: 31
Views: 1742

Re: PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?

Yeah but VA seems to think that all realists are naive realists, Yes, yes. I wasn't directly reponding to you. I was just mulling the issues. Seeing if we could get away from some of the words that are being abused. New words can be abused also, but at least in new ways and requiring a little creat...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:32 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?
Replies: 31
Views: 1742

Re: PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?

If we take the classical Newtonian world of causes we have no action at a distance (sort of). So, in realism we have objects outside us and sometimes we interact with them. Interact is another word I'd prefer or the now dead 'dependent' and 'independent'. I mean, dead as in don't beat a dead horse....
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:25 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?
Replies: 31
Views: 1742

Re: PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?

My growing suspicion is that VA has never ever considered the kind of realism you are talking about, because it is based on indirect perception. Maybe he's not even capable of considering it. To VA, realism = naive realism (and maybe some close variants of naive realism). He cannot conceive of said...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:22 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?
Replies: 31
Views: 1742

Re: PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?

What is absolutely mind-independent of the philosophical realists is in contrast to the relative mind-independence of the Empirical Realist [my beliefs] where it is ultimately subsumed within Transcendental Idealism thus cannot be absolutely mind-independent. Your contrast is ignoring the issue of ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:51 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9752
Views: 1025042

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA charges me (and 'the gang' (?)) with holding to philosophical realism. The fundamental principle of Philosophical Realism as in here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_realism And Atla points out that VA's argument is actually against naive or direct realism - belief that we can percei...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:24 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9752
Views: 1025042

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA. 1 I've explained that a definition of what is evil and what is good is subjective. 2 I've explained that calling 'oughtness-not-to-kill-humans' good, and 'oughtness-to-kill-humans' evil is a choice, which is subjective. 3 I've explained that deciding to enhance 'oughtness-not-kill-humans', rath...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:28 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?
Replies: 31
Views: 1742

PH, Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, Mind-Independent?

To PH and all other philosophical realists; Is Your Philosophy-of Mind-Independence, absolutely Mind-Independent? Philosophical Realism – .... is the view that a certain kind of thing has mind-independent existence, i.e. that it exists even in the absence of any mind perceiving it or that its existe...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:22 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9752
Views: 1025042

Re: What could make morality objective?

I suggested there's a different way of thinking about talk of minds and mental things and event - in response to VA's fixation with mind-dependence, mind-independence, and 'not-mind-independence'. I think VA's basic idea is that reality isn't and can't be not-mind-independent. So what the mind is s...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:43 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9752
Views: 1025042

Re: What could make morality objective?

Ah. That clarifies your claim: the noun oughtness-not-to-kil l has nothing to do with the ways we use the verb ought . So, please can you explain what exactly is the 'potential' you call 'oughtness-to-breathe'. We certainly have to or must breathe or (usually) we die. Perhaps the potential 'havenes...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:16 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9752
Views: 1025042

Re: What could make morality objective?

No, you got it wrong - and this is deflection. Modal should need not be understood as imperative - and, among others, that has important legal consequences. And even modal must and shall are grammatically declarative, rather than imperative. The issue of imperative prescription - do this and don't ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:35 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9752
Views: 1025042

Re: What could make morality objective?

You got it wrong. I never explicitly state 'I should' 'we should' 'you should' 'they should,' 'he should' xyz should, etc. from a third party perspective as a command or prescription. This is what Hume ' No Ought From Is ' "NOFI" is about, i.e. enforcing 'ought' from a third party to indi...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:00 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9752
Views: 1025042

Re: What could make morality objective?

This is what Hume ' No Ought From IS ' is about, i.e. enforcing 'ought' from a third party to individual[s] as in theism or political laws. No it isn't. You should read it again, and concentrate on the copulation of propositions until you get it. In every system of morality, which I have hitherto m...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:25 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH's Stupidity: The "Mind" Does not Exist as Real
Replies: 104
Views: 4008

Re: PH's Stupidity: The "Mind" Does not Exist as Real

All very interesting. The heart isn't just an organic pump. So should we look for thoughts, feelings, emotions or moods in the heart? (Wittgenstein joked about thinking with our hands when we write.) Despite all the above discussion, you still cannot grasp the essential and diverted to a Wittgenste...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:16 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH's Stupidity: The "Mind" Does not Exist as Real
Replies: 104
Views: 4008

Re: PH's Stupidity: The "Mind" Does not Exist as Real

I think there were even cases where people reported to have acquired feelings and preferences they didn't have before, after organ transplants. Yes, and I believe this, but it's not generally accepted (yet). Anyway that's beside the point now, the problem is the denial of the reality of experiences...
by Veritas Aequitas
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:09 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9752
Views: 1025042

Re: What could make morality objective?

If I define morality as moderating and managing evil to enable its related goods, how can I ignore the evil elements within the human conditions [mind, brain and body] in my Moral FSK [Model]. Try to think very hard. What makes an action evil or good? If evil is 'to the net detriment of the individ...