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by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:37 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9946
Views: 1083648

Re: What could make morality objective?

Claim: If there were no humans, there would have been and be no universe. Nonsense. Strawman as usual. You should counter my full argument instead of merely the conclusion. You are relying on your premise which is illusory to distort my b]human-based FSERC[/b] premises. My argument proper is this; ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:13 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: How to be a Moral Realist
Replies: 21
Views: 1444

Re: How to be a Moral Realist

Yes. And is that the ONLY basis of your moral objectivism? :D :D :D :D Yes??? tortured and killed for pleasure?? show me the links to the evidence. Even if there is, normal human sense will indicate that is due to a perversion. Take a look at "infanticide" and "sacrifice". You a...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:57 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
Replies: 46
Views: 790

Re: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God

From a physicalist perspective, even abstract concepts such as mathematics, morality, consciousness, intentionality, and meaning are considered physical entities, although they may consist of a large ontological object and a causally complex structure. Outside of philosophy, physicalism can also re...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:42 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9653
Views: 864635

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

I agree with the above except: I define morality as the management of evil to enable the emergence of the related good. What is evil is related to anything that has potentiality of fatality and is net-negative to the well-being and flourishing of the individuals and that of humanity. Objectively sp...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:17 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
Replies: 46
Views: 790

Re: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God

Kant: It is Impossible to Prove God Exists as Real Religion: It is Impossible to Prove that God Exists as a physical object (because God isn't one). Materialism is a form of philosophical monism which holds that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all things, including mental st...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:08 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God
Replies: 46
Views: 790

Re: The Soundness [???] of Godel's Argument for God

Conclusion: Everything is necessarily true. (□True(x)) That is the principle of explosion. It points to a contradiction in the premises. You seem to claim that just because higher-order modal logic is used it must be absolutely authoritative with a sound conclusion. It is preferable not to use exte...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:45 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9946
Views: 1083648

Re: What could make morality objective?

Claim: If there were no humans, there would have been and be no universe. Reason: This is because the universe is somehow entangled with humans. Utter claptrap. The universe, which includes humans, is not an illusion. Strawman again - the 'millionth' time. You did not read my point, i.e.?? VA: In s...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:36 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: [b][i]Morality is objective[/i][/b] is not even wrong. It is a statement without any meaning what ever.
Replies: 20
Views: 350

Re: [b][i]Morality is objective[/i][/b] is not even wrong. It is a statement without any meaning what ever.

Things are not objective or subjective in and of themselves. Subjectiity and objectivity refer to a RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN two things. Between the percieved and the perceiver. Your view is so empty: Something is objective if it can be confirmed independently of a mind. If a claim is true even when co...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:06 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"
Replies: 81
Views: 1132

Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

These Platonic abstractions are not the physical universe. For example, the standard natural numbers can somewhat be mapped to the physical universe, but nonstandard numbers cannot. If you map the standard natural numbers to the physical universe, then you must map the nonstandard numbers to nonsta...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:53 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9946
Views: 1083648

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA. So - humans make reality in the way a carpenter makes a chair. You have got to be kidding. What is wrong with the carpenter made that specific real chair [a part of reality] existing within reality [all there is]? Meanwhile. 1 Reality is all there is. (You agree.) 2 We humans are part of that r...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:03 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Philosophical Realism is A Threat to Humanity
Replies: 84
Views: 4261

Re: Philosophical Realism is A Threat to Humanity

P-Realism has the problem of doubts, skepticism, dualism raised as with Descartes, evil demon, matrix, correspondence theory of truth, others and worst of all - an independent God [theism]. Meanwhile. 1 Reality is all there is. (You agree.) 2 We humans are part of that reality, and in no way separa...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:45 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 9946
Views: 1083648

Re: What could make morality objective?

VA. So - humans make reality in the way a carpenter makes a chair. You have got to be kidding. What is wrong with the carpenter made that specific real chair [a part of reality] existing within reality [all there is]? Meanwhile. 1 Reality is all there is. (You agree.) 2 We humans are part of that r...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:35 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Moral Relativists Condone Killing of Babies for Pleasure
Replies: 1
Views: 52

Re: Moral Relativists Condone Killing of Babies for Pleasure

The above is for discussion and views are welcomed.

Notes: KIV
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:33 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Moral Relativists Condone Killing of Babies for Pleasure
Replies: 1
Views: 52

Moral Relativists Condone Killing of Babies for Pleasure

Thesis: Moral Relativists Condone Torturing Killing of Babies for Pleasure ... if you are a moral subjectivist or relativist, by definition, you MUST tolerate the moral maxim "babies can be tortured and killed for pleasure", if there are certain groups who insist such 'heinous' acts are mo...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:07 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: How to be a Moral Realist
Replies: 21
Views: 1444

Re: How to be a Moral Realist

My apprehension of morality has always been from the perspective of history, anthropology and cultural studies. My own education has included history and archaeology, but I also had an early grounding in science. For me it just beggars belief that morality and claims of scientific objectivity can a...