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Sorry, your postmodern values concerning tolerance are based no slavishness. You're incorrect, I fear. I'm not a Postmodernist. And I don't advocate what passes for "tolerance" today, but really isn't. I think the real problem is that you seem to be using a defintion of "tolerance&qu...

God knows exactly what the future holds, but he is not controlling or influencing the future, he just has knowledge of it. God is always 100% right in his predictions about the future, and it could never be otherwise. The future is always what God knows it will be, but God does not interfere in ord...

Agape is part of philia. No, it's actually not. Agape goes well beyond anything that philia describes. Agape = rational, based on shared values, objectives. Sorry: that's just not a correct definition. See https://www.dictionary.com/e/greek-words-for-love/. The differences in the Greek are certainl...

A person can most definitely predict without knowing, there is an entire gambling industry predicated on exactly that. If his prediction were ever to be 100% guaranteed to be correct every time, as God's is, then it's certainly a form of knowing. There would be no important distinction between know...

Then he doesn't transcend time. I can't get your reasoning there. You'll have to explain that, Will. All you need for time is one change. For any change, there is before and after. If your god changes his actions, then there is before and after and he is subject to time. No, I don't agree. Human be...

My syllogism didn't say that God makes thing happen. It also didn't assume such. Nor does it rely on same. If there is no predetermination though, then there must be the possiblity of predictions not being accurate. Actually, that's not the case. If, say, there are multiple possibilities or routes ...

My syllogism didn't say that God makes thing happen. No, that's true. You're right...it didn't explicitly say that. But it assumes it. It assumes that prediction (which is a form of knowledge, obviously) entails predetermination (which entails the arranging or engineering of a result). That's what'...

I'm not sure that anyone else who has been following the conversation would see things quite like that, but if you have no more to say on the subject of God's omniscience, we will leave it there. Well, fortunately, logic isn't a popularity contest. It's strictly a matter of rational consistency. So...

If the future is not predetermined, God could be mistaken when predicting future happenings. God cannot be mistaken when predicting future happenings. Therefore the future is predetermined. Something like that? Well, that sort of form, maybe...but the obvious error in premise 1 would make that syll...

It is your irrational believe that God knows everything about the future that is the subject in hand. No, we've settled that. You can't render your argument as any kind of syllogism, without equivocating "know" and "made happen." So that's settled, at least so far as logic is co...

syllogism If the future is not predetermined, God could be mistaken when predicting future happenings. God cannot be mistaken when predicting future happenings. Therefore the future is predetermined. Something like that? Well, that sort of form, maybe...but the obvious error in premise 1 would make...

But you're not actually saying these people are tolerant . On the contrary, you're saying that they're intolerant , but can only act on their intolerance once they're in a group. I'm saying, our tolerance is relative to the degree of our independence, and our independence is determined by our power...

I don't agree with you, I'm afraid. Well, maybe you ought to be afraid. :wink: Maybe it's a pretty fearful thing to start to realize that the thing you've been believing cannot be made rational. It would mean one has to change one's mind -- a thing one cannot possibly do in a Non-Theistic universe,...

God couldn't know the future unless the future is predetermined, that is what I am saying. I am not saying that God predetermines the future. Again, since you can't resolve the conflict between "knowledge" and "making happen," that's not a coherent thing to believe. So we'll hav...

I'm not understanding the logic of your objection here: I said that a weak person could be intolerant. And you're saying that a weak person is a member of a collective, and is admitting he's weak. But you've said nothing about how this relates to tolerance... :? So I'm unclear on your objection. ye...