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by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 83843

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Nick, you and I very rarely find an agreeable meeting place in these discussions. I've always thought we might be able to bridge that... but it's insightful to see how challenging and seemingly impossible it is at times. I think this dynamic between us demonstrates why there are such divisions in th...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 83843

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

I agree that all human types and people within these types What are the "types" you're referring to? Please explain. I also believe the universe and life within it has an OBJECTIVE purpose humanity as a whole has forgotten. The task for a seeker of truth with the help of great ideas withi...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The basic question of all philosophy is ?
Replies: 43
Views: 9763

Re: The basic question of all philosophy is ?

Can the perceiving mind really know the absolute truth of reality ? I don't think it's just a matter of perceiving. I don't think there is an "absolute truth of reality". Is a perception. Such a concept sounds like a human idea of something ultimately static... and for what purpose? Also ...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:56 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?
Replies: 50
Views: 14045

Re: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?

Let's say they're less constrained if one decides to explore the boundaries. That is, less handicapped by preconceived or revealed paradigms. If one wants to explore the horizon one does so without knowing what's there or what awaits...a type of mental space travel to who knows where! Yes! And well...
by Lacewing
Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:17 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining
Replies: 79
Views: 18349

Re: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining

Atheist philosophy is a contradiction in terms. I've not heard of atheist philosophy. What is that? Here are some definitions of philosophy. Nowhere is there any indication that philosophy must be classified as theist or atheist... so that's something foolish and/or dishonest that you're adding on ...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: The basic question of all philosophy is ?
Replies: 43
Views: 9763

Re: The basic question of all philosophy is ?

Can the perceiving mind really know the absolute truth of reality? I personally say NO because a perceived thing is by nature dynamic and forever changing, therefore cannot be an absolute truth. I don't think it's just a matter of perceiving. I don't think there is an "absolute truth of realit...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 83843

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Lacewing wrote: Situations do not hold power over a person's ability to choose how they feel. Bipolar disorder? Torture? Bereavement? Inebriation? Parturition? Winning the lottery? Going to school for the first time when you are five years old? Having a vision of the Virgin Mary? Acute appendicitis...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:11 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?
Replies: 50
Views: 14045

Re: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?

You can't even fathom spirituality THROUGHOUT ALL. Absurd theist! :lol: So what exactly is Pantheism\Panentheism to you if it is NOT "THROUGHOUT ALL"? THROUGHOUT ALL includes anything you might label "atheist". ALL is ALL -- it is not divided/exclusive as defined by your (or any...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:22 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining
Replies: 79
Views: 18349

Re: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining

attofishpi wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:54 am
Ah... your dishonest childishness coming through again. If only you could demonstrate the wisdom you claim to have access to. But no, you only seem able to offer lame and evasive comments. So much grandiose pretense and imagination must be very entertaining for you!
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:10 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?
Replies: 50
Views: 14045

Re: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?

I don't deal with 'spiritual atheist' waffle. A concept/label of your contorted creation based on the limits of your mind. I was speaking of natural spirituality that is not based on religious concepts... but you apparently don't know how to think without religious concepts. You can't even fathom s...
by Lacewing
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:59 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 83843

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

feelings are not under our direct conscious control. So you don't think it's possible to encounter a situation and ask oneself, do I want to feel "this way" or "this way" about/within this situation? I can see how thinking and feeling are tied together -- but it appears to me th...
by Lacewing
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:31 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: "Free will was given to man by god."
Replies: 540
Views: 83843

Re: "Free will was given to man by god."

Nothing makes or causes a human being to think or do anything. You can stamp your foot and deny that you consciously choose to think what you think and do what you do, but you cannot escape the fact that the moment you cease to make conscious choices you cease to do anything. I have no idea why peo...
by Lacewing
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:50 pm
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: Are all models wrong?
Replies: 233
Views: 42994

Re: Are all models wrong?

Skepdick to uwot wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:05 pm Peter knows his wife.

Empty words. If it pleases you more - it's uninformative. It's conversationally useless.
Maybe by blurting out "I know my wife", Peter was declaring that he doesn't have Alzheimer's.

What if someone says, "I know God". What do you think of that?
by Lacewing
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:40 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?
Replies: 50
Views: 14045

Re: Can an atheist seek Wisdom?

Stop wasting my time. You created this thread and posed a question. I responded and asked you thoughtful questions, which you say are wasting your time. Your mind was closed when you posted the thread, right? So aren't you actually the one wasting other people's time and being disingenuous about &q...
by Lacewing
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:16 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining
Replies: 79
Views: 18349

Re: Point Zero Tunneling and "Time" Mining

Good luck with that. Because you are ignoring ALL theism gained from the God system of ALL cultures. The ultimate one is the one where the most endearing of human virtues was shown - love - and you even have ignored that one - the one the God system had you born into. What is it exactly that you th...