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by SteveKlinko
Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

It's because we do in fact know what our own Consciousness is. Ok, great! If you know what consciousness is, then what is this "hard problem" you keep talking about? It Exists in a place in our Conscious Minds. The problem is that we cannot translate our Knowingness of our own Conscious E...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:59 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

You're ignoring my answer. I will interpret for you. Although we will never know what anything is actually like, but we can learn enough about things How? You're positing that we can't actually observe externals. So how do you learn "enough about them"? How does the process start? Describ...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:42 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: A House Cat Knows More Than The IBM Watson
Replies: 4
Views: 1809

Re: A House Cat Knows More Than The IBM Watson

Now I would like to say some things about Human Memory in general. For a long time I was convinced that the Memory of things was strictly a Physical Mind (PM) function, but recently it has seemed to me that the only thing the PM does is store the Neural Correlates of Memories and not the Actual Memo...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Is Consciousness Necessary?
Replies: 58
Views: 10121

Re: Is Consciousness Necessary?

Is consciousness necessary for anything other than itself or is it entirely superfluous to an entity that possesses it? In other words, can everything that a human can do be mimicked through unconscious mechanical and computational means, or is there something that consciousness does for us that ca...
by SteveKlinko
Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:31 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

If we can't observe things as they are in the real world, then how in the world would we be able to observe a retina or visual cortex in order to make claims about how they work? That is not to say that when you look at a Square your Conscious Mind might show you a Circle.(Except maybe in a Psychot...
by SteveKlinko
Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

So you must think we do See things directly as they are in the external World? You must be a Naïve realist. Have you ever read about how the Retina Works and how the Visual Cortex works? If we can't observe things as they are in the real world, then how in the world would we be able to observe a re...
by SteveKlinko
Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:48 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Is Consciousness Necessary?
Replies: 58
Views: 10121

Re: Is Consciousness Necessary?

Is consciousness necessary for anything other than itself or is it entirely superfluous to an entity that possesses it? In other words, can everything that a human can do be mimicked through unconscious mechanical and computational means, or is there something that consciousness does for us that ca...
by SteveKlinko
Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

So how is my mental image "physical"? right now I see a computer screen in front of me with typing on it. Where is that computer screen right now? Where is the computer screen 2 seconds later when I think about it after seeing it? These are real problems with the physicalist view of mind....
by SteveKlinko
Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:53 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

We do not See things in the external World, You believe this because ? So you must think we do See things directly as they are in the external World? You must be a Naïve realist. Have you ever read about how the Retina Works and how the Visual Cortex works? When you read up on these things you will...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

I am indeed. Then you either didn't understand or you're simply ignoring something I've explained multiple times already: Not just for brains/consciousness, but in general , for everything, PROPERTIES ARE DIFFERENT FROM DIFFERENT SPATIOTEMPORAL REFERENCE POINTS. Hopefully you'll notice that this ti...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:37 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

I think the 64 million dollar question, though, is whether or not a computer is "conscious." It's not even a 2 cent question. It's a question Philosophers keep asking in attempt to stay relevant. If I don't know what consciousness is (and I don't) how could possibly claim that I am "...
by SteveKlinko
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

Creativity seems like an almost impossible topic of Consciousness to deal with. But I believe that given some Logical Thinking we will be able to explore Creativity. With the Perspective of the Inter Mind Model (IMM), we can ask the question: Is Creativity a process in the Conscious Mind (CM) or is...
by SteveKlinko
Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

I doubt it, too. I’ve been arguing from the perspective that how the computer learns to compose music isn’t part of the OP. Certainly a computer would be unable to compose music without some kind of input beforehand. I wonder, though, if that input is a matter of playing examples, is turning on the...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

But a Human Composer can prejudge it before releasing it to an audience, but a Computer cannot. Sure, but that's not necessary to create a musical composition. But Music is Created for the Enjoyment of a Conscious Mind. A Computer cannot know that any Conscious Mind will like the Music it generates...
by SteveKlinko
Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music
Replies: 352
Views: 39762

Re: Computers Are Incapable Of Creatively Writing Music

Composition is the process of specifying exactly what sounds will occur, or specifying at least the parameters of the sounds to occur, with what properties (a la dynamics, phrasing, etc.) in a sequential and simultaneous temporal musical context. Computers can do that. Of course, but we are explori...