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- Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:20 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
- Replies: 158
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Re: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
Like consciousness is the product of a body? You must do better than this, or I rest my case. Show me a consciousness without a body? And whilst I'm still not quite sure what you mean by 'consciousness' if you mean self-awareness as in being aware one is aware then I think that limited to very few ...
- Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:03 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
- Replies: 158
- Views: 44940
Re: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
Ginkgo; That's correct the materialist would say that emotions are nothing but matter in motion. This is why they also believe they can solve the problem of other minds. A few points: Emotions are not limited by time and space; last time I checked matter is limited by time and space. How do they exp...
- Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:44 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
- Replies: 158
- Views: 44940
Re: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
This is a materialist explanation for consciousness. Aren't you trying to avoid this? The only thing that I am trying to avoid are lies, false premises, and misrepresentations. I have never studied the "materialist explanation", but think that any explanation from a materialist would invo...
- Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:06 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
- Replies: 158
- Views: 44940
Re: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
Ginkgo; There is a tremendous difference between feeling emotion and studying emotion. This idea is very difficult for me to convey to other people, and I don't know why. They will always talk about how they feel, or how I feel, rather than talk about what emotion actually is and how it works. I stu...
- Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:53 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
- Replies: 158
- Views: 44940
Re: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
Arising; I thought that "Arising_uk" meant that you get up every morning in England, the United Kingdom. Or maybe you are considering that old statement that the sun never sets on the United Kingdom? If they are not 'consciousness', then what are they? I'd have thought one was the product ...
- Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:04 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
- Replies: 158
- Views: 44940
Re: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
Greylorn; To be equally frank, the "qualia" notion has yet to make it as a viable concept for me. It is too vague. Qualia is not so difficult to understand. Think of it this way: You are driving in the mountains and make a mistake that takes you off the road and causes your truck to fall i...
- Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:40 am
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Theism - better to believe a lie?
- Replies: 79
- Views: 17976
Re: Theism - better to believe a lie?
Blaggard; Apparently, I did not explain myself well enough. Please consider: Just as a side note, it was never proven the Earth was flat, The Earth is proven to be flat every day by thousands of people. If you do not believe this, then take a very large globe and go to a kindergarten or first grade ...
- Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:16 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
- Replies: 158
- Views: 44940
Re: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
An explanation for the evidence is put forward by a number of people including, Hameroff, Penrose and Chopra. The extend to which we accept the evidence is a different matter. Basically the argument is that one of the functions of the brain is to work like a quantum computer. Quantum computations a...
- Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:09 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
- Replies: 158
- Views: 44940
Re: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
Gee, Don't be absurd. No one can show you a thought of any kind. Of course it is absurd. Sometimes, Greylorn, you have to read my post, the post that I am responding to, and then think about it. Arising likes to ask questions, probably trying to emulate Socrates, but often Arising is simply on a 'f...
- Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:36 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Theism - better to believe a lie?
- Replies: 79
- Views: 17976
Re: Theism - better to believe a lie?
Marsh; You have created a very interesting thread here, but there are some points that I think need to be clarified. Please consider: If it were ever proven scientifically that it's best for the well being of an individual, a society, and evolution to have a belief in god, then is it best to have a ...
- Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:21 pm
- Forum: Philosophical Counselling
- Topic: Is Emptiness Actually Depression?
- Replies: 138
- Views: 390305
Re: Is Emptiness Actually Depression?
Bill; I agree with Blaggard. Emptiness is not depression. Emptiness is empty, but depression is full -- it is full of sadness. Clinical depression is assumed to be related to our chemistry, as chemistry affects emotion. People suffering from this type of depression often battle it their entire lives...
- Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:58 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Mind
- Topic: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
- Replies: 158
- Views: 44940
Re: Proof for Consciousness existing outside our brains
Arising; Hi. I still owe you a post from the evolution thread, but I'm working on it -- when not distracted. (chuckle) Bonds. Emotion. How are these 'consciousness' and what body do they exist outside of? That is, can you show me an independently existing bond or emotion? If they are not 'consciousn...
- Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:58 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: BLAME
- Replies: 101
- Views: 26637
Re: BLAME
Spheres: That was a very good post, and I agree with the large majority of what you had to say, but it was not very pragmatic and does not give us any idea of what we can actually do to understand or correct the problem. I hate the ethics forum and try to avoid it, but I can not get this stupid thre...
- Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:33 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Theism - better to believe a lie?
- Replies: 79
- Views: 17976
Re: Theism - better to believe a lie?
Immanuel Can; Agreed. :D You have a point. That is not what I was considering when I read this thread. My thought was that Marsh was questioning whether or not a lie can have value. Many people, especially young people, often do not see the value in a lie. Some will even quote, "Thou shalt not ...
- Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:31 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: BLAME
- Replies: 101
- Views: 26637
Re: BLAME
Tbieter; I had planned to address some of the points you made in your December 29th post to Mickthinks, but considering the quote below, I have changed my mind. I checked out the website, and what I think is that you are a racist. You will probably deny this, and may not even know that you are racis...