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by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:24 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 592
Views: 28276

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

No cumulative evidence is needed; just one instance would be adequate. The day I put a glass of water onto the table and it spontaneously becomes wine, is the day I will start to believe it. 🍷 🤔 ..and therein lies the catch 22 of it. U want the proof without what was asked of you, some faith. I don...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:07 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 592
Views: 28276

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Harbal wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:04 pm
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:02 pm

The very idea of the Incarnation is where the supernatural element is located. Do away with that, and what you call Christianity falls to the ground.
What puzzles me is how it ever got off the ground in the first place. 🤔
The seed of Christianity required witnesses not faith.
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:06 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 592
Views: 28276

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Glasses of water suddenly becoming glasses of wine is just wishful thinking, Fishy. How would the water even know what sort of wine to turn into? :? It's a doddle for the entity most call God. Not wishful thinking. FFS how much cumulative evidence need I provide? No cumulative evidence is needed; j...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:35 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 592
Views: 28276

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

You believe there is NOTHING plausible within your comprehension of science and reality for any "supernatural" event to occur, such as a glass of water to form instantly into wine? Glasses of water suddenly becoming glasses of wine is just wishful thinking, Fishy. How would the water even...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:29 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Got any good jokes?
Replies: 782
Views: 161026

Re: Got any good jokes?

Not racist. Intention is everything. The joke lets us reflect uporn the crushing evil that was MLK's murder. A man not allow even to express a dream. ..but the joke is extremely poor since you are suggesting 'black' people only have nightmares. Even if a black fella told you it - the bloke is an id...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:25 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: What music are you listening to?
Replies: 1972
Views: 131227

Re: What music are you listening to?

A compilation of eletronic music on the CD "Head Your Mind" I bought for 10 bucks on Hindley St in the early 90s..a great CD of various electronic artists - rather deep and trippy..

Head Your Mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLdqjBkDMpc
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:20 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Got any good jokes?
Replies: 782
Views: 161026

Re: Got any good jokes?

Not it's true. And told to me by a black person. Obviously you do not understand the power of humour Sure, but what does "Not it's true" mean? :lol: Not racist. Intention is everything. The joke lets us reflect uporn the crushing evil that was MLK's murder. A man not allow even to express...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:17 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 592
Views: 28276

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

My main point is that there are no supernatural events, not ever were any supernatural events. However that fact is not a reason to not be Christian. So you honestly believe that you have never existed prior to this existence and once dead you are eternally dead? You don't believe that there could ...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:54 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 592
Views: 28276

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

Do you understand that Palestine at the time of Jesus was a real historical country? This was not a magical country but was as real and natural as ,for instance, New York, in the 1950s. I honestly don't understand what your point is within the context of our discussion. My main point is that there ...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:30 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Got any good jokes?
Replies: 782
Views: 161026

Re: Got any good jokes?

Why do black people have only nightmares??? ... Because the last one to have a dream was shot in the head! Wow, that's pretty rascist to the point that only a member of the KKK might find it funny. (just sayin :wink: ) Not it's true. And told to me by a black person. Obviously you do not understand...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:29 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 592
Views: 28276

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

The definitive doctrine of Christianity is the Resurrection. For the Resurrection to succeed within a monistic world view the Resurrection must be a psychological event but not a physical event. So, what is it that is resurrected? Not the dead body of Jesus to be sure, but the enduring memory of a ...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:21 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: the quest for timeless truths....
Replies: 25
Views: 4032

Re: the quest for timeless truths....

Walker wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:08 am - Eternal truth means to be ever-present. As Sri Ramana Maharshi said to Sri H.L. Poonja, of what use is a God that comes and goes?
..and one might say back to Poonja, since when should God be required to be always utiltarian?
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:00 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: True Story of the Day
Replies: 1175
Views: 95605

Re: True Story of the Day

How is what has been apparent on Earth for millenia, fighting for resources not a "negative force"? ...that is a result of ENTROPY. Because Life is a positive expression of Existence? When Life is young, it regenerates and grows very quickly, Growth. When Life is old, it degenerates and d...
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:58 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Got any good jokes?
Replies: 782
Views: 161026

Re: Got any good jokes?

Sculptor wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:13 pm Why do black people have only nightmares???




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Because the last one to have a dream was shot in the head!
Wow, that's pretty rascist to the point that only a member of the KKK might find it funny. (just sayin :wink: )
by attofishpi
Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:19 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
Replies: 592
Views: 28276

Re: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue

The definitive doctrine of Christianity is the Resurrection. For the Resurrection to succeed within a monistic world view the Resurrection must be a psychological event but not a physical event. So, what is it that is resurrected? Not the dead body of Jesus to be sure, but the enduring memory of a ...