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Why couldn't they or wouldn't they seek whatever, just like a theist? Sage wisdom is not gained from atheist knowledge, it requires a degree of theistic faith to be given such insight. Are you saying that "sage wisdom" (as you know it) is the only true wisdom? So, your question wasn't rea...

Well then, good luck with getting answers, indeed wisdom, from spiritual atheism. (woteva that is!) From my perspective, it doesn't have anything to do with theism or atheism. It's just natural. Why would I need luck? I already get answers naturally (as I said), don't you? You just, perhaps, attrib...

Impenitent wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:26 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:25 am Is this another thread about Peter's wife?

would we know it if it was?

Peter knows her. He will tell us.

Philosophy Now wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:05 am David Taube exposes some of the difficulties in ever fully knowing the one we love.

Is this another thread about Peter's wife?

Why couldn't they or wouldn't they seek whatever, just like a theist? Are you defining wisdom and knowledge as something specific that you think it is? And are you suggesting that theists do it a certain way? People can do all kinds of things, regardless of their affiliations or lack of them. Platfo...

being spiritually IN TUNE...that's a thing called theism :mrgreen: It's not logical or wise to think it's that narrow. Ok. So is Pantheism or Panentheism too narrow? Are you wanting to identify a belief that is the right/best definition of being spiritually in tune? I don't think it's logical or wi...

I agree with everything you said, except... I don't agree that logic has to be rigid...it can flex with new information. No, over time logic gets pretty rigid. As your web of beliefs grows wider updating all of it as new information arrives becomes more and more expensive. Logic CAN be rigid or not....

I DONT read atheist to theist posts - the entire conversation is usually extremely boring and redundant. As are theist to atheist posts. Just wondering why you keep representing atheists vs. theists in a lop-sided fashion? Sorry, what caused your mind to consider I presented a lop-sided view? Try t...

If 'all sorts of things work' do you then think that wisdom should be logical? Logic is created by humans and is exceptionally rigid - it is a limit that we impose on ourselves, not a limit the world imposes on us. I think the concept of wisdom (as with all human thinking) is created by humans...ba...

The only reason theists are crazier than atheists is because they've simmered in their 'crazy-broth' for longer. They are the same kind of crazy. I don't know about that. I think we're all kinda crazy but I don't think it's necessarily the same kind of crazy. There are lots of contributing factors ...

I DONT read atheist to theist posts - the entire conversation is usually extremely boring and redundant. As are theist to atheist posts. Just wondering why you keep representing atheists vs. theists in a lop-sided fashion? I ONLY see the fervent atheists latching on to each other and condescending ...

It's rather sad, especially among the fervent atheist types that they must bond their allegiances and disregard the true pursuit of wisdom. Is it rather sad among the fervent theist types that they must bond their allegiances and disregard the true pursuit of wisdom... or do you not recognize that ...

It's rather sad, especially among the fervent atheist types that they must bond their allegiances and disregard the true pursuit of wisdom. Is it rather sad among the fervent theist types that they must bond their allegiances and disregard the true pursuit of wisdom... or do you not recognize that ...

It's rather sad, especially among the fervent atheist types that they must bond their allegiances and disregard the true pursuit of wisdom. Must they? Who do you think is doing that -- and where? Perhaps when people disagree with you or another "theist-type?" (but maybe they agree with ea...

Values and Things We live at the macro-level and perceive accordingly. It has long been odd to me that anything in the physical-ethical world or worlds should be seen as made up fundamentally of things. Let alone anything we can perceive. The fundamentals of ethics are inchoate values and also the ...