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Yup. Another anosognosia sufferer. You just failed as hard as you could today didn't you? Well, I successfully showed that atheists don't want to acknowledge the ontological distinction between things that have being and being itself. I also showed that, unless a circular square is a logical possib...

You like not answering questions don't you, this appears to be a theist trait upon this forum. Isn't that the truth?!! It's the strangest thing... such blatant avoidance and diversion... over and over. I can't tell whether it's dishonesty or a mental wiring difference of some kind. One would think ...

Arising_uk wrote:Until you show me a non-contingent being I think it not a dichotomy at all, let alone a false one. Interestingly enough it looks to be a category error.

So, you want me to show you a circular square. Hmmm. Talking to a rock would be more productive.

Tell me, Arising_uk, do you understand the difference between contingent being and non-contingent being? Or do you believe contingent vs. non-contingent is a false dichotomy? Show me a non-contingent being? LOL! If I could do that it wouldn't be non-contingent by definition . So should I assume you...

So you can't do it... and you can't even understand the reason for doing it... and you can only think to distort the point? Then your criticisms are too self-absorbed to be useful. Are there any theists here who can provide a better way of demonstrating to theists what is being attempted by atheist...

Tell me, Arising_uk, do you understand the difference between contingent being and non-contingent being? Or do you believe contingent vs. non-contingent is a false dichotomy?

Arising_uk wrote:

Reflex wrote:No. Both those ideas belong to the same category of existence.

See the 'regardless' bit?

Whether or not they actually exist, they belong to the same category of (assumed) existence -- just like Mt. Everest and my Subaru belong to the same category of existence.

Only if you tell me the difference between Santa and God -- regardless of whether or not they exist. Well one is that one doesn't give you presents if you're naughty and the other burns you for eternity if you are. No. Both those ideas belong to the same category of existence, just like Mt. Everest...

I'm assuming that you are asking as a rational being who acknowledges that self-conscious disbelief entails beliefs of another kind. I'm willing to learn. Tell me how you self-consciously disbelieve in Santa? Only if you tell me the difference between Santa and God without regard for whether or not...

Make a philosophical argument that demonstrates this. All you are doing now issuing bald assertions with crazily useless metaphors. You won't achieve extra credit for pretentiously wrapping it as a category error argument when you don't know how to construct them. LOL! Did you know lack of insight ...

I will just say they both inhabit the category of "imaginary things". That's where your mistake lies, and it is the very heart of the category error. You're like a fish denying the existence of the very water in which it swims. And all because of a category error: you think the water is l...

FlashDangerpants wrote:Is this going to be something about God transcending existence?
Is it going to make any difference for somebody who doesn't already believe in God?

It's about perception, not belief. So the answer to both questions is 'no.'

I'm still waiting on an answer from Arising_uk.

What's the problem here? If that's what you have for your category argument, it requires nothing more than blunt denial. God doesn't exist. Santa doesn't exist. The argument presented by Sthith required no other similarity between the two. You presented no categorical confusion so we are done and y...

FlashDangerpants wrote:Oh fine then. In that case - the argument doesn't work because they both inhabit the category of things which don't exist.

Oh. So, you're just a troll with nothing cogent to say.

FlashDangerpants wrote:
God and Santa not inhabiting the same "category of existence" isn't how that arg works.

Sorry, but that's exactly how it works (unless you're just trolling).