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Alpha, what Leo fails to make clear is that he's uses "chaos" in the context of chaos theory. Chaos theory is the mathematical study of the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions—a response popularly referred to as the butterfly effect. The unfolding ...

Sorry, guys, but I don't see a logical alternative. I have no idea how Leo can at once affirm non-locality and deny the logical consequences. Since you have yet to elaborate on the logical consequences you refer to there's little here for me to respond to. How do you get from non-locality to the ov...

Sorry, guys, but I don't see a logical alternative. I have no idea how Leo can at once affirm non-locality and deny the logical consequences.

Yes. Our notions of locality can only to be applied to phenomena and are thus purely observer-defined constructs, but I can't see how this conclusion leads to your assumption of transcendent cause. Perhaps you could flesh out the logic steps which lead you there. Referring to a "transcendent c...

Inglorious. Those are not my arguments but I have no interest in following you down another Platonist cul-de-sac. Yes, they are your arguments. You're the one who quoted Einstein: You're the mental contortionist here. Is non-locality a fact of nature? "Yes" or "no" -- no ambigui...

Physicist and Nobel Prize winner Prince Louis de Broglie (who happened to be a real prince) said, “The mechanism demands a mysticism.” Another physicist, Thomas Broph wrote a book by he same title. If life and mind are real and the actual conditions in which we live are non local, then of necessity ...

Obvious Leo wrote: "Space and time are modes in which we think, not conditions in which we exist".....Albert Einstein.

Yet, you insist that the conditions in which we actually exist are not real because they transcend space and time (are non-local).

It's odd, but our arguments are very similar, Leo. I just take it to the next logical step. My logic includes spatial and temporal non-locality.

That's why I made the edit: your ideas are self-contradicting.

As long as the "random" stays in quote marks this sums up chaotic determinism perfectly. The unpredictability of any physical system is a function of the complexity of its causal dynamics and not a function of uncaused events. From "chaotic determinism," only chaos, only unintel...

Sorry, alpha, but it's impossible even in principle. "Randomness" actually does exist on the quantum level. Without it, will is a meaningless concept. (Randomness and infinite complexity are indistinguishable so I put "random" in quotes.) well, us "newtonian troglodytes&quo...

logically it is possible to predict (and "compute") anything with absolute certainty and accuracy given the proper capacity and means. This statement is false and any philosopher conversant with mathematical philosophy will confirm that it is false. Boole's laws of thought and treatises o...

I thought it was obvious.

logically it is possible to predict (and "compute") anything with absolute certainty and accuracy given the proper capacity and means. This statement is false and any philosopher conversant with mathematical philosophy will confirm that it is false. Boole's laws of thought and treatises o...

This is a philosophy of religion forum. Religion is not a specific function of life or belief system; rather is it a mode of living. To isolate part of life and call it religion is to disintegrate life and to distort religion. True religion is a wholehearted devotion to some reality which the religi...