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- Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:53 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
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Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
All I've been asking is how does one even determine if the counter-example actually falsifies the premise? From where does one acquire that authority? This has to be determined before we can even say a fallacy has been committed and find use in the NTS idea. Sure. I gave an answer to this earlier. ...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:05 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
I would say that this guy can't see the wood for the trees, but he would probably whip out a dictionary and start arguing about leaves. Actually I can see it now: Advocate: "If there is a wood then there are trees, ergo you can only see the woods if you can see the trees .... The no wood for t...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:59 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
a) There is such a thing as a false Scotsman b) There is such a thing as a true Scotsman c) The end I don't think this is correct. It's as if the NTS is not a useful idea. I think it is. I think it is a real phenomena that some people when arguing try to eliminate problematic counterexamples, for e...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:14 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
Watch the video I gave you. I did and the video makes the same assumptions you do, AND the comments seem to support what I have been saying. For instance, in the video it says: “Simply put, if you assert All S are R, and someone finds and S that is not R,…” who is to say that that someone actually ...
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:14 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
Now there are three of them. With such an inability to read and properly address others' posts in a logical way how are we suppose to take anything they say about logical fallacies seriously?
- Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:50 am
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
You're an idiot. :| This isn't a sufficient argument against anything I've said, so everything I have said still stands. Watch the video I gave you. I did and the video makes the same assumptions you do, AND the comments seem to support what I have been saying. For instance, in the video it says: “...
- Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:04 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
So how do we determine who has "the authority to prescribe what being a Scotsman/Christian is"? Both sides justify their positions as well as they can. Which is what I said in my first post in the thread: Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." Person B: "But my...
- Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:04 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
So how do we determine who has "the authority to prescribe what being a Scotsman/Christian is"? Going back to my first post: Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge." Person A: &q...
- Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:03 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
The no true Scotsman fallacy is an attempt to pass something off as the case when it has not been established to be the case. The person committing the fallacy is assuming the authority to prescribe what being a Scotsman is when he is not entitled to do so. An example. Person 1: Christianity has be...
- Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:26 am
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
The no true Scotsman fallacy is not a problem, it is a technique sometimes used in argument, but it is a type of invalid argument. It isn't something to be solved; it just needs recognising as invalid, and disqualifying as such. Right. What makes it an invalid argument? What are you recognizing, an...
- Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:51 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
The no true Scotsman fallacy is not a problem, it is a technique sometimes used in argument, but it is a type of invalid argument. It isn't something to be solved; it just needs recognising as invalid, and disqualifying as such. Right. What makes it an invalid argument? What are you recognizing, an...
- Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:52 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
What made you deviate from that strategy and engage in a conversation in order to create a problem that did not hitherto exist, I wonder. 🤔 Please quote the post(s) where I did that. The no true Scotsman fallacy is a very simple concept; even I understand it, but it is glaringly obvious that you do...
- Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:36 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
a) There is such a thing as a false Scotsman b) There is such a thing as a true Scotsman c) The end Wrong on all counts It's exactly like you do not understand the problem How does this actually address what Advocate said? Is there such a thing as a false Scotsman and such a thing as a true Scotsma...
- Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:08 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
Perhaps we could just define a woman with a bike between her legs as a lady cyclist then, but she could never be a true Scotsman, even if she were born and bred in Scotland. 🚵♀️ I don't define a woman like that. I define woman like the vast majority of people that use the English language do. You ...
- Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:33 pm
- Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
- Topic: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
- Replies: 262
- Views: 74774
Re: the "no true Scotsman" problem solved
No True Scotsman is not a conundrum, it's a well known fallacy. It is redundant to show that a fallacy is fallacious. The problem of philosophy that Wittgenstein complains about is more at an incoherence in the language game being played. It's as though you sat down to play a game of chess (definin...