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- Sat May 23, 2015 5:04 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
- Replies: 169
- Views: 38674
Re: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
Yes, for sure. We believe that the almighty and divine goddess of science created the universe, sacrificed her son, is handing out punishments (for christians, for sure) created a heaven (universities) and hell (churches) and is omnipotent and omniscient at the same time, and does not want us to as...
- Sat May 23, 2015 4:49 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
- Replies: 169
- Views: 38674
Re: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
Rel, you are, of course, referring to scientology. No, of course, I'm not. Science absolutely operates as religion for many people. EDIT: I'll let Wikipedia lay some of the foundation and then we can erase it out. If you miss this edit, I'll just repost it as a response http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Sat May 23, 2015 4:48 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
- Replies: 169
- Views: 38674
Re: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
OK. Then it seems to me that, at least at the start, you're presenting two propositions with respect to ultimate reality. No. I stated what is 'ultimately' reality. Not 'ultimate reality' - just goggled the term. Proposition 1. still stands. There are three propositions. Well, I think your use of q...
- Sat May 23, 2015 4:23 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
- Replies: 169
- Views: 38674
Re: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
- on the one planet where we can observe consciousness at work, only one species out of many thousands appears to have any kind of concept of the supernatural, and that's the most imaginative one The argument that follows is pretty interesting, but I wonder if you've not made a mistake with your ve...
- Sat May 23, 2015 4:16 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
- Replies: 169
- Views: 38674
Re: Atheism or God? - our perception of reality.
3 would really just be a refinement of 1, no? Correct. OK. Then it seems to me that, at least at the start, you're presenting two propositions with respect to ultimate reality. Not that it particularly matters unless you were trying to categorize this sort of belief system vs that. As for me, I thi...
- Sat May 23, 2015 4:12 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Do atheists freely choose Hell?
- Replies: 104
- Views: 23627
Re: Do atheists freely choose Hell?
The jokes. So good.
And as for me, I'm partial to darker ales. Pale ales don't really do it for me.
And as for me, I'm partial to darker ales. Pale ales don't really do it for me.
- Sat May 23, 2015 4:03 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Do atheists freely choose Hell?
- Replies: 104
- Views: 23627
Re: Do atheists freely choose Hell?
Fire & brimstone pales in comparison.Obvious Leo wrote:Hell is when the brewery workers go on strike.
- Sat May 23, 2015 4:02 am
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Is the love of God really Stockholm syndrome?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 7037
Re: Is the love of God really Stockholm syndrome?
It's worth having, however you go about getting itDalek Prime wrote:Thanks for pointing me to this book. I may just buy it, as I would never, ever, freeload off the Net.
- Fri May 22, 2015 9:44 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Do atheists freely choose Hell?
- Replies: 104
- Views: 23627
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"If I get my call-up papers from the army, does not mean I chose to sign-up." I get it now...agreed. On the flip side, if you're told that filling out Form A-7163 will exempt you from the draft, but you refuse to sign it because "The draft will never happen," have you volunteere...
- Fri May 22, 2015 9:34 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Do atheists freely choose Hell?
- Replies: 104
- Views: 23627
Re: Do atheists freely choose Hell?
Interesting read. Thanks!Melchior wrote:http://www.vw-resource.com/burning_oil.html
- Fri May 22, 2015 9:33 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Do atheists read the primary sources?
- Replies: 234
- Views: 51371
Re: Do atheists read the primary sources?
Yes, and since hardly anybody goes there and survives, their culture will remain largely unknown till such time as that changes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaPYwlXOTzQ https://youtu.be/0Kf9ZF1NLXQ These people have lived in total isolation for 60,000 years, and so they would represent a cultur...
- Fri May 22, 2015 8:12 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Do atheists read the primary sources?
- Replies: 234
- Views: 51371
Re: Do atheists read the primary sources?
I'm not sure they would distinguish between 'natural' and 'supernatural' with the degree of coherence that we might. I'm not an expert on 'primitive' religions. Yes, it's a good point, and the Sentinelese certainly help to illustrate your point. So I guess the degree to which we would consider them...
- Fri May 22, 2015 7:03 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Do atheists read the primary sources?
- Replies: 234
- Views: 51371
Re: Do atheists read the primary sources?
Certainly some peoples are more 'primitive', and our notion of religion and theirs would be very different. For many primitive peoples, 'unseen forces' are behind everything. For us to call this some sort of 'theology' would be a mistake. Agreed. At the same time, if they consider those forces to b...
- Fri May 22, 2015 6:49 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Do atheists freely choose Hell?
- Replies: 104
- Views: 23627
Re: Do atheists freely choose Hell?
Adding that to the long list of Things I Learned on the Internet.Melchior wrote:Yes, European engines do consume oil as a method of improving the lubrication.
- Fri May 22, 2015 6:16 pm
- Forum: Philosophy of Religion
- Topic: Is the love of God really Stockholm syndrome?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 7037
Re: Is the love of God really Stockholm syndrome?
It might, however, explain horrible actions committed by men in the name of God. "I was just following orders" certainly seems to be part of the human condition, but I don't think this is at the root of religious violence. Instead, there seems to be a sense of being an agent of God, rathe...