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by Peter Holmes
Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:41 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Consider the following moronic claim.

'If morality is subjective, there's no difference between truth and falsehood.'

Anyone any idea how to penetrate this stupidity?
by Peter Holmes
Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:35 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Where did I mentioned 'should' in your sense in the above. That is from your bias and dogmatic thinking. My emphasis is on the "moral oughtness" [noun and physical] which is a moral fact as conditioned upon a credible moral FSK. I have already argued on this a "1000" times. Ther...
by Peter Holmes
Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:59 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Consider the following moronic argument.

P1 It's a fact that people can tell lies. (True factual assertion: 'objective'.)
P2 Telling lies is morally wrong. (Moral assertion expressing an opinion: 'subjective'.)
C Therefore, telling lies is both objective and subjective.

:roll:
by Peter Holmes
Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:33 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

That we should promote the well-being and flourishing of the individual and therefore humanity is a matter of opinion, which is subjective. As I've been saying all along, there is subjectivism at the start and heart of your moral 'theory'. It's just that you refuse to recognise it. Where did I ment...
by Peter Holmes
Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:48 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Well fuck me sideways with a bargepole, the blind squirrel finally found a nut. Up to a point anyway. Murder isn't some legal term of art, it is a normal word, so we don't need to invoke some additional FSK thing. Murder is a morally loaded term in any sentence where the word gets used to describe ...
by Peter Holmes
Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:09 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

It's true that VA says morality-proper has nothing to do with the rightness or wrongness of behaviour, but rather with opposing evil and promoting good. (As it happens, this is incoherent nonsense.) Only declaratives can have truth-value. Like imperatives and exclamatives, interrogatives don't. Gram...
by Peter Holmes
Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:11 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: PH's Own Internal Standards as Moral Facts
Replies: 20
Views: 854

Re: PH's Own Internal Standards as Moral Facts

An appeal to intuition is always the last refuge of the philosophical scoundrel.
by Peter Holmes
Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:09 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Your argument is deceptive. Yes, "murder' is strongly associated with moral wrongfulness" but there is a conflation of concepts in this statement which need to be specified and separated; "Murder" is related specifically to the political and legal FSK which independent from mora...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:09 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Premise: In English, the term 'murder' is strongly associated with moral wrongfulness. Conclusion: Therefore, (it's a fact that) murder is morally wrong. Now, for 'murder' substitute 'homosexuality', 'abortion', 'capital punishment', 'eating animals', or any other morally contentious issue. In each...
by Peter Holmes
Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:01 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Premise: In English, the term 'murder' is strongly associated with moral wrongfulness. Conclusion: Therefore, (it's a fact that) murder is morally wrong. Now, for 'murder' substitute 'homosexuality', 'abortion', 'capital punishment', 'eating animals', or any other morally contentious issue. In each ...
by Peter Holmes
Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:44 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Here's an ejaculation from an intellectual retard, who's shtick is nothing but the subjectivity and re-definability of all identities and categories. 'If morality is subjective - we can re-define words AND the law however the fuck we want!' Deny the consequent: we can't re-define words and the law ...
by Peter Holmes
Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:06 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Here's an ejaculation from an intellectual retard, who's shtick is nothing but the subjectivity and re-definability of all identities and categories. 'If morality is subjective - we can re-define words AND the law however the fuck we want!' Deny the consequent: we can't re-define words and the law -...
by Peter Holmes
Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:59 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

*Anyone who says/thinks it's a fact that X is morally right/wrong is a moral egotist and a fuckwit. The end. And anyone who can't flat-out say rape is morally wrong, all the time, everywhere, for everyone, is a coward and hypocrite. 'nuff said. *the author removed his post, so I removed his name Yo...
by Peter Holmes
Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:53 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

And anyone who can't flat-out say rape is morally wrong, all the time, everywhere, for everyone, is a coward and hypocrite. 'nuff said. *the author removed his post, so I removed his name I think rape is morally wrong, all the time, everywhere, for everyone. So, you're not just saying you really do...
by Peter Holmes
Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:22 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 9451
Views: 811550

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

*Anyone who says/thinks it's a fact that X is morally right/wrong is a moral egotist and a fuckwit. The end. And anyone who can't flat-out say rape is morally wrong, all the time, everywhere, for everyone, is a coward and hypocrite. 'nuff said. *the author removed his post, so I removed his name I ...