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by creativesoul
Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:34 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

No wonder you write so much fucking retarded nonsense. You actually think/believe that that makes it more precise. So... the cup is on the table is not as precise as this... liniwc hr1 l nehd87 1hvbneu c9r hoqddpnn uhh235um9n 9yhje fh 9h0gqwhdd9uhuuhcpuhuhper 9ehfuhjihbtyd7qtwfgdnemv ewieunfdwe fuwh...
by creativesoul
Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:28 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

creative: What constitutes a degree of awareness? A broader perceptual horizon. Douche-Bag, if I see a hair on a fly, and a half blind man can only see the fly, this is a degree of awareness. Douche-Bag, if we both drink from the same bottle of wine and you think it tastes good or bad whereas I can...
by creativesoul
Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:50 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Indeed....
And you ain't seen nothing yet.
I second that. We ain't... seen much of nothing, nor can we.
by creativesoul
Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:39 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Fer fuck's sake Satyr, don't flatter yourself - a wolf amongst sheep.

:roll:
by creativesoul
Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:31 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Satyr, Perhaps I'm overestimating again. I gotta love the pop-psychology being used to construct a safe-haven. I'd pat you on the back, but your hands are in the way. Interesting coping mechanism. If you, for one, "respect" me too much and take me at my word, then you ought act like it. Th...
by creativesoul
Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:01 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

My perspective is of the world. All that remains to be seen is if it is a superior understanding/interpretation of it. I think that the only place that that remains to be seen , is in a mind which does not understand what it would take for your claims to be true; IOW in one that does not understand...
by creativesoul
Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:52 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

I think you're being a little naive - in a good sort of way - Bill. If you think that such aggression is necessary to bring out the 'best' in people, then you've fell into a mental trap which supports such aggressive behavior. Such a thing produces the logical consequence of our calling such aggress...
by creativesoul
Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:17 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Before this thread completely devolves, the OP asks... what is stopping us from seeing the truth? I personally think that that question is misplaced, and cannot be answered without having a good grasp on the role that truth plays in - dare I say - all thought/belief. Truth is a long-standing philoso...
by creativesoul
Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:58 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

"The cup is on the table" and it is so because of Cartesian coordinates, is nothing of any significance.
Like talking to my two young-adult sons. :wink:

'The cup is on the table' is not true because of Cartesian coordinates. It is true because it corresponds to states of affairs.
by creativesoul
Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:42 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

creative wrote: Because that is how thought/belief and language works. It is that simple. If the cup is not on the table, then the statement 'The cup is on the table' is false. The cup cannot be both, on the table, and not on the table simultaneously. Mark: works, in your model? fits like a copy or...
by creativesoul
Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:28 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

The horizon IS level to the earth...and to our sight...therefore the earth IS flat. No, wait...the cup IS on the table, and since nothing appears to be moving, it is a Truth. You got it wrong here Satyr. It does not follow from "since nothing appears to be moving" that the cup is on the t...
by creativesoul
Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:45 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Satyr: If philosophy, as the search for wisdom, is not interested in reality free from personal tastes and social/cultural conventions, then what is it good for? Wisdom, by my lights, is a product of habit. Specifically of habitually putting knowledge to good use, or at least knowing how to do such...
by creativesoul
Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:13 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Naw, bruddah...

I'm good. Just made me laugh.

:wink:
by creativesoul
Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:08 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Awesome... farts and poop.

Brilliant philosophical discussion.

8)
by creativesoul
Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:57 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 522548

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

...just asking: why 'The cup is on the table' is a true statement IFF the cup is on the table? Because that is how thought/belief and language works. It is that simple. If the cup is not on the table, then the statement 'The cup is on the table' is false. The cup cannot be both, on the table, and n...