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It hardly matters what he's saying. Perhaps not to you. Sure I can integrate into his vocabulary. I agree - the Moon doesn't exist if no humans look at it. OK, can you expand on how semantic holism explains your position or contributes to it. No story or account of reality is ever complete. Give or...

You don't need a deity. I agree. But it's one solution. All you need is semantic holism. Ontologicaly what exists is everything. It's a veeeery big "everything". What or where is that which isolates a small part of the whole (e.g Moons, Stars, Planets, ) from the whole and brings it into ...

Here's an example - recently quoted at another OP - of what passes for serious philosophical reasoning. 'In cognitive science and semantics, the symbol grounding problem concerns how it is that words (symbols in general) get their meanings, and hence is closely related to the problem of what meanin...

The Moon Does Not Exist If No Humans 'Look' at It Well, let's look at the implications: obviously this wouldn't just be true for the Moon. It would also be true for the sun and the earth. So, did humans arise on a planet with a sun already in place? or Did the sun and earth arise simultaneously as ...

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:45 pm Clearly you do not, which is why I gave you the link. It's essentially the same thing anyway. If something isn't 'locally real' then is it 'real'??

Do you mean "real" in the way scientists use it; or "real" in the way philosophers use it?

That doesn't sound like a statement about quantum mechanics, that sounds like a statement about meaning. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: I think I agree with this statement about meaning. Sure, all meaning is created by minds. I tentatively accept that. Great! What do you mean by "qu...

Ok well in any case, the idea that qm proves that the mind creates reality in that way is fringe, that's all I'm saying. No, it's not. Mind creates all meaning - including the meaning of the Mathematical formalisms which encode our knowledge. That's so trivial anb obvious that even calling it "...

A lot of people learned about qm by watching a movie called What the Bleep Do We Know, which was basically just a bunch of quantum mysticism saying a bunch of fringe, at best, takes as fact. Mostly that "we create reality by thinking about it." That's what I was referring to when I said T...

The wave function literally encodes That sounds like a statement about objective reality, that a function is literally encoding something I mean sure. Of course it says something about objective reality. The function literally encodes the scientist's objective state of mind. This makes it sound lik...

There's a mind-independent reality in qm too. The idea that qm has anything to do with the mind is a very fringe belief. Lolwut? The wave function literally encodes all of your uncertainty about the possible measurement outcomes. That's why it only provides you with probabilities and not scalar val...

"The universe is not real" expresses a subjective judgment! https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-universe-is-not-locally-real-and-the-physics-nobel-prize-winners-proved-it/#:~:text=Under%20quantum%20mechanics%2C%20nature%20is,%2Dthan%2Dlight%20communication.) I bet you don't eve...

*yawn* idiot. You still don't grok (and I doubt you ever will) that the problem is adjectives. ADJECTIVES! ADJECTIVES! ADJECTIVES ! By the law of identity: The universe is the universe is the universe. The universe is nothing other than itself! So what the hell does "The universe is real"...

There's no evidence whatsoever for the existence of the mind and mental phenomena as abstract or non-physical things. :lol: :lol: :lol: "Evidence" is an abstract/non-physical mental concept . (and. "concepts" are abstract/non-physical mental phenomena) Try again? Now with less &...

The above issue is raised very often re my discussion with objective moral facts, so I am raising it here in this moral section. The point is whatever is reality including real humans, they cannot exist without the human factor . It cannot be an human-independent-fact without the human factor. Wtf ...

Literally every fact either resides in; or was obtained via the use of a human mind. How else would any of us come to learn any facts? Facts do not reside in minds. Thoughts about facts may reside in minds, but not facts themselves. Facts exist only outside minds. 'Learning a fact' is shorthand for...