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by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:10 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

If interpretation is an illusion this requires a degree of free will given one must choose between truth and falsity if one is to be decieved. Determinism, as I understand it, sez I choose nuthin'. My sense of choosin' itself is just a fiction, accordin' to causal determinism. Yet if all is determi...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:45 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

It is not an either/or scenario... *this is a false dichotomy as determinism is an interpretation of events and as an interpretation exists through further grades of this interpretation given interpretations result in further interpretations thus grades. Partial determinism can occur. It may not be...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:37 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

Freedom occurs through being. Non being is an absence of freedom as it is nothing, not even being. All being in contrast to Nothingness is free as freedom exists as part of this being. It exists as part of this being given the totality of being, in contrast to nothing, contains within it an element...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:09 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

Complete determinism being negated still does not negate certain actions are indeed determined. A leads to B leads to C does not negated what leads to A may in fact be undetermined. If there is one situation in the entire universe that is not determined, then by definition, Determinism is no longer...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:52 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

...phenomena that are standardly thought to be (ontologically) indeterminstic--namely quantum and stochastic phenomena. Well, that's interesting. Now, here is my question about that. I can claim no great originality, but this seems to me to be the right response. (The video is only 3 min. or so lon...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:24 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

Then you're the first I've met...hello! Okay, now I'm super-interested. How the heck do you manage that, TS? Seems to me, at least at first glance, that Materialism automatically implies Determinism. Can there be another way? I'm not sure why it's so common to think that materialism or physicalism ...
by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:17 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

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by henry quirk
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:08 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

All being is free relative to Nothingness as this freedom of being occurs given it is appearing from nothing. Freedom occurs as an act of being, being purely acts when it emerges from nothing. I'm not sure what being instead of not-being has to do with it. An amoeba exists but I wouldn't say it's f...
by henry quirk
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:56 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: the profit motive in medicine
Replies: 85
Views: 3135

Re: the profit motive in medicine

Please clarify for me how spending other people’s money until it runs out relates to the shortcomings of a prevention-only model. I don’t see the connection that you’re proposing. I don't see any shortcomings in a prevention-only model. Then you should re-read my previous post. There are many more ...
by henry quirk
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:49 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

Total determinism and total free will do not contradict given in contrast to void all being is free as existing. I'm not sure what the above means, so I'll translate (probably wrongly)... Determinism and free will do not contradict one another. Yeah, they do. If *cause and effect holds then **liber...
by henry quirk
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:16 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

It's simple: materialism doesn't imply determinism. point taken however, I've never met a strict materialist who wasn't also a determinist and: I shoulda left strict out...really, a materialist is a materialist another self-correction: perhaps what I mean is physicalist , not materialist I'm a mate...
by henry quirk
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:45 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

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Total determinism and total free will do not contradict given in contrast to void all being is free as existing. I'm not sure what the above means, so I'll translate (probably wrongly)... Determinism and free will do not contradict one another. Yeah, they do. If *cause and effect holds then **liber...
by henry quirk
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:44 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

There's no way for the strict materialist to square the circle. It's simple: materialism doesn't imply determinism. point taken however, I've never met a strict materialist who wasn't also a determinist and: I shoulda left strict out...really, a materialist is a materialist another self-correction:...
by henry quirk
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:23 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother
Replies: 312
Views: 3627

Re: Free Will and Determinism Necessitate Eachother

Total determinism and total free will do not contradict given in contrast to void all being is free as existing. I'm not sure what the above means, so I'll translate (probably wrongly)... Determinism and free will do not contradict one another. Yeah, they do. If *cause and effect holds then **liber...
by henry quirk
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:06 pm
Forum: Coronavirus Discussions
Topic: '20/'21: not safe for anyone
Replies: 1923
Views: 77116

Re: '20/'21: not safe for anyone

Sculptor wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:36 amthe libertarian media
There ain't no such animal.

What there is: a global propaganda industry expressly designed to further wide & deep governance.

It ain't Left or Right (largely bullshit categories): it's slaver.