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Why are you asking for other's conception? Are you still trying to find something, anything, that could help you defend your already held strong belief? Ha ha ha...another Liberal idiot trying to cut off people from reasonably coming to conclusions the Lobotomy Left disagree with. You're spending a...

Dubious wrote:Torture is justified under specific circumstances which may at best not be considered amoral or immoral.

In other words, torture is not by definition morally impermissible. Thank you for answering the question. For others, it's improving impossible to even understand what is asked of them.

You did NOT ask for mine nor anyone else's conception in the opening post. You ONLY asked for it AFTER you failed to provide an answer to my clarifying question posed to you. Look at the Title of this thread, moron: When is torture morally permissible? In my original post, I say the following: I re...

I am insisting that something relative can not also be objective based upon the standard definitions of those words. Nothing therefore to do with my opinion. And those words as defined are mutually incompatible. You appear to be suggesting the opposite. That they are not mutually incompatible That'...

For morality to be objective there cannot be any degree of relativity within it at all Because relativity is subjective. And so if morality is relative it cannot be objective My God, what passes for thought here? You're just making grand pronouncements. You do not explain anything. You do not argue...

If morality is relative then it can not be objective. There is no such thing as relative objectivity. That is an oxymoron. Anything determined by human beings is subjective by definition. Furthermore different groups of human beings might have different interpretations making the thing in question ...

So you want us to discuss when is some thing, namely torture, morally permissable but you do not want to tell us what the some thing, namely torture, actually is nor even describe what is involved in torture? Are you being intentionally obtuse? I asked you for YOUR CONCEPTION of torture. Why are yo...

He secretly admires me and is looking for validation.

Morality is not objective. I disagree. Morality may be relative (to a degree), but it's clearly objective. Morality, like language, is a social phenomenon, so the objective standard for morality -- what's right and wrong -- is determined by the group. In America incest is wrong simply because we as...

Why are you following me around like I took your virginity?

You're showing me that you don't do philosophy. Nothing more.

Before we could even begin to discuss this properly, how do you define 'torture' and 'morally permissable'? A definition of torture will be the conclusion to this thread. We can certainly start the discussion by finding out about other people's conception of torture. One way to do that is by answer...

My opinion: You can't both call yourself civilised and say torture is permissible,.... Of course you can. You're simply running with the assumption that torture is uncivilized. That's a premise for which you have no argument, nor even thought to defend, nor likely have ever defended. But this is a ...

Welcome, Interjectivist, Good luck with clarity on philosophy of mind questions. I have a slight interest myself, as well as a bachelor's in philosophy, but I've all but given up philosophy of mind. I think Searle is right: we won't get further in philosophy until we get further in laboratories. Tha...

Torture is sometimes necessary yet no civilised society can condone it, it's a dilemma. While we agree that it's sometimes necessary, that doesn't tell us anything about the topic of this thread nor even on a more general topic such as the morality of torture. The reason I say this is because all w...