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… I was going to respond to you, but you ended up being such an asshole in the things you were saying to me, I'll skip it. According to you, I'm a divine asshole you love and take pleasure in. :mrgreen: 'Tis true! Doesn't mean I want to roll around with you or slog through your stew. Love, Lacewing

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:36 pm …

I was going to respond to you, but you ended up being such an asshole in the things you were saying to me, I'll skip it.

Lacewing, you've inspired me to post the "One Elemental Law" thread. It describes why I do not accept the modern "create your own reality" belief. Why can't you see "creating your own reality" to be the truth/experience on one level of reality/experience, while "o...

Do you disagree with this definition of secularism: Secularism is a code of duty pertaining to this life founded on considerations purely human, and intended mainly for those who find theology indefinite or inadequate, unreliable or unbelievable. It makes no sense to me to try and define secularism...

Reflex, In discussing your beliefs, you seem to identify the boundaries of who you are, what is possible, and what is or must be. A tadpole such as myself must live as a tadpole until it become a frog. There's no sense in pretending this tadpole is a frog. Make-believe can only be a hindrance to my ...

Reflex, I see that your previous response to me did not include the additional edit I had added in parenthesis: I'm saying all is perfect as it is (divine/God)... when our human judgments are not applied to it. You may still think it's meaningless -- which, of course, doesn't mean that it is. :D Als...

I'm saying all is perfect as it is... when our judgments are not applied to it. "Perfect" in that scenario is meaningless. So, you really can't see what I'm trying to express -- because you're busy picking at the words. Okay, done with that. That's still God. What is NOT God? It's not sym...

I don't think it's a judgment to consider that all is divine in its natural, unjudged state. The highlighted is meaningless: "Saying everyone is special is just another way of saying no one is special." I'm not saying everyone is special. I'm saying all is perfect as it is (divine/God)......

Read the following typical definition of secular humanism. Okay, I read it AND I read the link you provided... and OH MY GOD!!! Do you have ANY INKLING of how much you are reading into all of this? What kind of person accuses people of having a secular philosophy that YOU, yourself, have specifical...

Who is CHANG, and what does he have to do with this?

...qualitative variations are real as they are inevitable. Sure! But if you take away our judgments, what is not divine (regardless of the variations)? If you take away our judgments, nothing is divine. Without judgment (human or otherwise), the "magnificence of creation" is a meaningless...

Nick_A wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:04 pm I'm curious as to how you define "divine."

The closest definition from those you listed would be: supremely good.

I would clarify it further by saying that it is the "magnificence of creation without human judgment". In each and every moment.

Can you imagine that?

Philosophers worthy of the name know the harm that is done to the young by making them afraid of sharing or even contemplating the deeper questions of the heart. WELL WHO DOESN'T KNOW THAT?? The difference between you and philosophers who are worthy of the name is that you SEPARATE and ACCUSE WHOLE...

I did not BECOME divine... the way I see it: ALL is ALREADY divine. All of us. Born that way... always that way... nothing to atone for or feel wretched about. Let's talk about that. In a sense, I do not disagree: we are all born of the Divine so there is nothing to atone for or feel wretched about...

All the human needs for objective meaning and purpose are just fantasy since we create our own reality and we are the Gods of our reality. Doesn't mean the human ideas and fantasies are not valuable and entertaining for our human experience. They just are what they are -- and I don't think it's a b...