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by Trajk Logik
Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 81
Views: 23202

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

One thing I’d like to add—I’ve seen a number of articles that predict that strong AI will be able to reprogram itself without human interaction. If so, AI could write its own programs. Really scary 😵‍💫 The myth that we can make a program to write a program has been around since at least 1980. The c...
by Trajk Logik
Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 81
Views: 23202

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

Yes. This makes me think about Searle's Chinese Room. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room The man in the room understands something. It understands the instructions to write this scribble when he sees that scribble. He also understands the language the instructions are written in. So it is i...
by Trajk Logik
Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness and the Brain in the Vat
Replies: 10
Views: 2357

Re: Consciousness and the Brain in the Vat

Of course you have access to the world via your body. And that's because your body and brain represent the physiological means by which your mind and soul were awakened into existence within this world. It's needless to say that we're both just speculating here, but isn't it at least logical to ass...
by Trajk Logik
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:25 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 81
Views: 23202

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

How is this any different from me telling you a fictional story and the sounds from my mouth invoke visual imagery in your mind? If we gave AI access to cameras so that it can see the world, memory to store the images and the programming to compare real-time visual information provided by the camer...
by Trajk Logik
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:10 pm
Forum: Epistemology - Theory of Knowledge
Topic: Dopson's Paradox
Replies: 49
Views: 7103

Re: Dopson's Paradox

"This statement is not being read." https://youtu.be/Dy-4zt_ebRY?si=jgSV8TRGfN-3cel3 There's nothing paradoxical or profound about it. It's just a misuse of language - a meaningless/useless string of scribbles. Just because you can arbitrarily arrange scribbles in a certain way that follo...
by Trajk Logik
Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness and the Brain in the Vat
Replies: 10
Views: 2357

Re: Consciousness and the Brain in the Vat

Just because every once in a while, some loud outside stimulus has some effect on one of your dreams, does not change the fact that the majority of what you experience while dreaming is not induced by outside stimuli. I never said a majority of what we experience in the dream is triggered by extern...
by Trajk Logik
Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness and the Brain in the Vat
Replies: 10
Views: 2357

Re: Consciousness and the Brain in the Vat

It seems obvious (to me, anyway) that whenever you sleep at night, just like the vat scenario, your brain resides in a nutrient-rich environment that is cut off from any outside stimuli,... Then how is it that you can be woken up by an alarm clock? I didn't mean to imply that you were cut-off to th...
by Trajk Logik
Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: This is how AI "Sees" our world:
Replies: 81
Views: 23202

Re: This is how AI "Sees" our world:

It cannot undestand what it is doing in ANY sense. AI can already "See" and "Imagine" the human world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_7mIkDE8CM How is this any different from me telling you a fictional story and the sounds from my mouth invoke visual imagery in your mind? If ...
by Trajk Logik
Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:59 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Consciousness and the Brain in the Vat
Replies: 10
Views: 2357

Re: Consciousness and the Brain in the Vat

Consciousness remains confounding The "brain in a vat" is a philosophical thought experiment often used to explore questions about the nature of reality, perception, and knowledge. The scenario posits that an individual's brain is removed from their body and placed in a vat of nutrient-ri...
by Trajk Logik
Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:37 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: the nature of reality....
Replies: 56
Views: 1609

Re: the nature of reality....

TL: Right. You are conflating indoctrination with learning. Observing that a cat makes a different sound and looks different than a dog is not indoctrination. There is a clear difference in taking what other say without observable evidence, or logical validation, as proof of some aspect of reality ...
by Trajk Logik
Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:10 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: the nature of reality....
Replies: 56
Views: 1609

Re: the nature of reality....

Not really. Indoctrination requires the use of language and we are not born knowing a language. We are born with an unfiltered perception of reality that becomes skewed when we use language and depend on elders to inform us of how reality works. K: and here I disagree.. 95% of all communication, no...
by Trajk Logik
Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:57 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: the nature of reality....
Replies: 56
Views: 1609

Re: the nature of reality....

from the day we are born, we are indoctrinated with a vision of the country we are born into Not really. Indoctrination requires the use of language and we are not born knowing a language. We are born with an unfiltered perception of reality that becomes skewed when we use language and depend on el...
by Trajk Logik
Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:46 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: A question.
Replies: 41
Views: 1060

Re: A question.

If a machine can engage in a conversation with a human without being detected as a machine, it has demonstrated human intelligence. However, if during engagement in a conversation with a human being one is claimed to be a machine, then what has this demonstrated? What is a machine? How are humans n...
by Trajk Logik
Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:25 am
Forum: Gender Philosophy
Topic: Sex and gender
Replies: 181
Views: 143357

Re: Sex and gender

But penguins most likely wouldn't be harmed by this bullshit. Women are. Yes, they are. The community solution, of course, is the same as it always was. The soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and (when all else fails) the ammo box. The individual solution is as I outline above: I acknowledge y...
by Trajk Logik
Tue Dec 26, 2023 2:42 pm
Forum: Gender Philosophy
Topic: Sex and gender
Replies: 181
Views: 143357

Re: Sex and gender

... Men and women are what are specific to the human species. They refer to the reproductive roles of humans, not chickens or deer (rooster/hen and buck/doe)... Do you claim that the reproductive mechanism is different for humans and "deers"? You won't say that people are not animals, and...