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by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:53 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

One type of nonsense does not override all else even when someone presents their "logic" saying it does. That's why the language games are pointless. Socratic dialogue is deconstructive, you'll arrive at the conclusion that all that we know is we know nothing. And that's where Philosophy ...
by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

Do you think your logic IS or IS NOT subject to your own experience? Personal experience has shown personal experience to be limiting. Subjectivity has its limits. So, is that a "no"? Where do you get your logic? Is it bigger than or from beyond yourself? Why would you do this if their cl...
by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:02 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Without Religion There Would Be No Science
Replies: 11
Views: 2110

Re: Without Religion There Would Be No Science

A tentative supposition: Without religion there would be no science. Children typically come into the world ready to explore and figure things out. They already feel connected to their environment, and that they belong in it. They continually seek to discover new things and know how things work. Th...
by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

Skepdick wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:02 pm
Then EVERYTHING is nonsense. I can accept that. :D

One type of nonsense does not override all else even when someone presents their "logic" saying it does.
by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:56 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

Okay. How about in the case of claiming there's a god? Based on what? It's not observable... it's imagined. You don't have to go that far to observe the limits of human thinking. The case of people claiming that "there is gravity" is just as ridiculous. Gravity is not observable - apples ...
by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

So which one of us is in avoidance here where I have ANSWERED the first two points of your five... The simple task was for you to supply FIVE examples of "logical" beliefs about Christianity. What is so fucking hard about that? It was NOT to "answer" my points, NOT to play off o...
by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:25 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

Wouldn't assertions be built on logic? It seems backward to make assertions and THEN find a way to apply logic to them. Are you trying to rationalize your own style of making assertions? :) It's not backwards. it's how epistemology/science works. The process of rationalizing one's own thinking IS t...
by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:38 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

Things that are not real to me are illogical to use as a basis for anything. (I already said this.) Things that ARE real to me enable me to witness, measure, see patterns, and make connections -- and that provides a basis for my logic. So logic is subject to your own experience? Sure! As I said... ...
by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:19 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

What I want revealed is what you think logic is if you claim to know what illogic is...I answered my half. Things that are not real to me are illogical to use as a basis for anything. (I already said this.) Things that ARE real to me enable me to witness, measure, see patterns, and make connections...
by Lacewing
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:21 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

It's not about MY definition of logical. The question is put to YOU, based on what YOU think. Please don't play games. Too many people do that here. Are there any ideas or beliefs that YOU think are illogical? If so, then you should be able to put yourself in that scenario I presented, and answer i...
by Lacewing
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:01 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

What is a logical foundation to work from? Why don't you answer my question so that we can see if there's any sort of shared understanding there? Is there anything YOU think is illogical? If the word "foundation" troubles you for some reason, remove it and you can still answer. I can't an...
by Lacewing
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

Okay, I see what you're saying. Not sure I agree because it still seems weird to me to fashion logic on the illogical (as I see it). For example, if someone were to tell you all about a world they believed in, of things that seemed obviously and completely illogical and unbelievable TO YOU, and the...
by Lacewing
Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

To disagree with the argument because of premises does not disagree with what the logical form is, the logic is how the assertions connect not what the assertions are. Okay, I see what you're saying. Not sure I agree because it still seems weird to me to fashion logic on the illogical (as I see it)...
by Lacewing
Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Hell
Replies: 79
Views: 12941

Re: Hell

... Discuss. Why do you say "discuss"... as if you are a director or teacher who needs to tell the class what to do next? We're in a discussion forum. Why don't you tell us to breathe too? 8) I think hell is an idea/concept. People make up all kinds of stories about it, including turning ...
by Lacewing
Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.
Replies: 239
Views: 46157

Re: Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

So, in order to understand the logic you speak of, one must completely agree with all of the components existing and connecting as YOU say they do, correct? You asked how it is logical. You tell me what logic is if you disagree. Personally, I simply don't share your kind of logic because I don't ag...