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by henry quirk
Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Why are so many Americans pro-slavery & anti-abortion?
Replies: 21
Views: 7345

"USA is VERY religious"

Not really, no.
by henry quirk
Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:13 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Why are so many Americans pro-slavery & anti-abortion?
Replies: 21
Views: 7345

"There are real contradictions in PARTY positions that require explanation." Mebbe so, but not every American is dedicated to party. In fact: I think most Americans, regardless of registration and affilliation, see 'party' as mechanism, not tribe. # "The political party platforms are ...
by henry quirk
Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:48 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 97720

"What should be the criteria for personhood?"

Yep. That's what I've been askin', over and over, across multiple threads. If what a pregnant woman carries is just meat, then what happens to that meat is her decision. If what a pregnant woman carries is a person, then -- no -- she doesn't have carte blanche. So: seems to me, until 'we' arrive at ...
by henry quirk
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Why are so many Americans pro-slavery & anti-abortion?
Replies: 21
Views: 7345

it 'is' relevant

Not every pro-life American is evangelical. Not every pro-life American is conservative. There is no monolithic position on these subjects. Anyone who believes there is a monolithic position on these subjects has -- to be mild -- been fed a plate of crap by folks with agendas. And: no, 'slavery' doe...
by henry quirk
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:33 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Why are so many Americans pro-slavery & anti-abortion?
Replies: 21
Views: 7345

"I think he was pointing to the contradiction that the conservative pro-lifers favor the life of zygotes but oddly still favor killing of those full grown adults." I think he was doin' more than that, but: let's say he was, for conversation's sake, just addressin' 'that' supposed contradic...
by henry quirk
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Philosophy of Mind
Replies: 319
Views: 109746

Me: I prefer common sense & reason, and where those come up short...

...I'm content to live with uncertainty.
by henry quirk
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Why are so many Americans pro-slavery & anti-abortion?
Replies: 21
Views: 7345

c'mon, man

"alot of americans are becoming increasingly in favor of the confederates and pro-slavery." Your evidence? # pro-life does not extend to abolishment of the death penalty. Generally: adults, guilty of heinous crime, get the chair. Not quite the same, you'll agree, as offing a kid in the wom...
by henry quirk
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 97720

uni

You wrote: Beware the idiot-philosopher! You got that right. I wish I had your capacity for debate (for debate's sake) but I don't. I've had my fill of lunacy here (and elsewhere) so I leave the good fight to you and Mannie (you two don't see eye to eye but, here, in this forum, in this thread, 'the...
by henry quirk
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:58 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 97720

Pete

You wrote: "I want to re-state the moral argument against moral objectivism. The problem with believing there are moral facts (independent of opinion) is that anyone can think their moral opinions are facts, and nobody can prove that they're wrong, by falsifying their moral assertions." Le...
by henry quirk
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:51 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 97720

Pete

You wrote: "The problem with believing there are moral facts, independent of opinion, is that anyone can think their moral opinions are facts, and nobody can prove them wrong - that their moral assertions are false. For example, if the claim 'involuntary euthanasia is right' is factual, how cou...
by henry quirk
Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 97720

sumthin' to chew on

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarians_for_Life From the article... Human offspring are human beings, persons from fertilization. Abortion is homicide – the killing of one person by another. There is never a right to kill an innocent person. Prenatally, we are all innocent persons. A prenatal ...
by henry quirk
Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 97720

RC

As a natural rights libertarian, I agree I shouldn't monkey 'round with other folks lives if they're walkin' 'round, mindin' their own business (or nestled in a womb). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_abortion From the article... Non-aggression is an ongoing obligation: it...
by henry quirk
Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 97720

Pete

If morality is subjective then it 'is' just an opinion, even if held by all members of a society. Society A holds that come age 65, folks should submit to euthanasia. If morality is subjective (just an opinion) this is all well & fine (bit of problem for those oldsters who might not wanna go to ...
by henry quirk
Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 97720

Pete

You asked up-thread: is abortion right (morally justifiable) or wrong (morally unjustifiable)? I responded: Seems to me, the deeper question is: Is morality objective (a function of reality) or subjective (just an opinion)? --- If morality is objective: the conundrum of abortion lies in figuring out...