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by Ginkgo
Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:19 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers, what are they?
Replies: 96
Views: 3627

Re: Numbers, what are they?

If we posit an infinite universe, then it never would have begun. Well, I would have to disagree with that. That's actually not possible...at least to rationally disagree. You could disagree irrationally, of course, but the maths are against you, and conclusively. You can forget the maths IC, my ar...
by Ginkgo
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:03 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers, what are they?
Replies: 96
Views: 3627

Re: Numbers, what are they?

Immanuel Can wrote: If we posit an infinite universe, then it never would have begun.

Well, I would have to disagree with that. A universe that has always existed can have a starting point. It is a cyclical universe moving from one state to another, it just so happens that we call the Big Bang the starting point.
by Ginkgo
Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:12 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers, what are they?
Replies: 96
Views: 3627

Re: Numbers, what are they?

There has always been something rather than nothing, Aha. 8) Nothing could be quite so certain as that that is not true. For it's actually mathematically impossible. It literally can't ever happen. The infinite regress of causes problem applies to that. An infinite sequence of causes and effects ne...
by Ginkgo
Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:18 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers, what are they?
Replies: 96
Views: 3627

Re: Numbers, what are they?

According to chaos theory order can appear out of chaos, so I don't think that is a problem. Actually it's far worse a problem than you imagine. For you not only have to get order out of chaos, but something out of nothing...if you understand the mathematics involved. And then you have to get an as...
by Ginkgo
Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:06 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Numbers, what are they?
Replies: 96
Views: 3627

Re: Numbers, what are they?

Because, how can an order be maintained when there's no one controlling it? It's not just the problem of "maintaining," C. The question is, "How can highly-complex, rationally-ordered, intelligible things come out of sheer nothingness?" An analogy for you, if I may. Go and find a big, desk-sized ho...
by Ginkgo
Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:18 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: American election.
Replies: 1202
Views: 29181

American election.

Time for Trump to put on his big boy trousers and embrace defeat.
by Ginkgo
Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:21 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: the easy problem of consciousness
Replies: 79
Views: 3241

Re: the easy problem of consciousness

Asking how the brain is capable of creating the experience of consciousness is not materially different from asking how the tongue produces saltiness. The pattern of nerve firings IS the thing that's being referenced, not a separate entity made of separate stuff. Actually, it is different. The easy...
by Ginkgo
Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:35 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: the easy problem of consciousness
Replies: 79
Views: 3241

Re: clean it up, bud

Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:26 pm
Dimebag wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:08 pm Philosophical zombie maybe, all he sees is code.
He's in the Matrix.
The interesting thing about the original movie is that the Matrix is sentient. In other words, even though it is a machine it has the ability to experience.
by Ginkgo
Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: "There has never been true communism."
Replies: 300
Views: 8160

Re: "There has never been true communism."

The slide from one to the other is very, very short. Fallacy of false equivalence. You can think so, of course. That's how many Socialists seek to avoid the unpleasant consequences of their ideology -- claim that all the "Communisms" and "Socialisms" that have existed so far, empirically, in the wh...
by Ginkgo
Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:38 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: "There has never been true communism."
Replies: 300
Views: 8160

Re: "There has never been true communism."

I didn't say Mussolini wasn't a communist. In fact I made no reference to his earlier life. Okay, let's move on, then. The point is merely that squabbles among Socialists, Communists and Fascists are family squabbles. They are birds of a proverbial feather. Again, fallacy of false equivalence.
by Ginkgo
Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:33 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: "There has never been true communism."
Replies: 300
Views: 8160

Re: "There has never been true communism."

Immanuel Can wrote: The slide from one to the other is very, very short.
Fallacy of false equivalence.
by Ginkgo
Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:22 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Big Question 1
Replies: 44
Views: 1685

Re: Big Question 1

I don't speak with uwot, though. He seems determined to pick a fight with God... As Xenophanes pointed out: But mortals suppose gods are born, Wear their own clothes and have a voice and body. The Ethiopians say that their gods are flat-nosed and black, While Thracians say that theirs have blue eye...
by Ginkgo
Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:15 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Big Question 1
Replies: 44
Views: 1685

Re: Big Question 1

Go ahead and debunk Russell's ideas. Sure. Which one? How about Russell's barber paradox? It was used by Russell to point out the contradiction contained within Cantor's naive set theory. Russell's paradox is one of my favorites. The barber paradox is a puzzle derived from Russell's paradox. It was...
by Ginkgo
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:07 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Big Question 1
Replies: 44
Views: 1685

Re: Big Question 1

You ought to read uwot's Bertrand Russell comment, it sums it up nicely. I did. I don't speak with uwot, though. He seems determined to pick a fight with God, and it's above my pay grade to step into a fight like that. Personally, I would wish him repentance on that, but you can't make a man do wha...
by Ginkgo
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:04 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: "There has never been true communism."
Replies: 300
Views: 8160

Re: "There has never been true communism."

If fascists is what you mean by socialists, then according to your description of socialists I am not a socialist. Socialism includes both Communism and Fascism. I'm glad you're not either of those. But you've got to ask yourself why that's the way the worm inevitably turns. The History Channel mak...