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by Greylorn Ell
Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

Well said, Atto! And thank you! Having verified the existence of at least two clear-thinking minds on this forum, I can proceed to put Russell's criterion to work, by hypothesizing the pre-existence of three spaces, each with only three absolutely simple properties; from which I can develop an alte...
by Greylorn Ell
Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:38 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Start with what you know, don't make shit up along the way.

But be forewarned. I believe in a Creator, but this is not the God of any established religion. You will find that a logician's disagreement with deities isn't on the grounds of religious opposition, but merely one of consistency. We are trapped in a causal mindset. We expect every cause to have an...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Start with what you know, don't make shit up along the way.

Cosmology is an example of where Occam's Razor should be used but is not used. They are working on multiple universe and single universe theories. The multiple universe theories are more complex and no more predictive than the single universe theories. But cosmologists spend most of their time on t...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:08 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I know. Did not think it was worth mentioning. Russel's Razor is only relevant given identical predictive utility also. I am yet to see any two theories with identical domains of applicability which have identical predictive utility. If that were the case - they would be mathematically isomorphic. ...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:16 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I know. Did not think it was worth mentioning. Russel's Razor is only relevant given identical predictive utility also. I am yet to see any two theories with identical domains of applicability which have identical predictive utility. If that were the case - they would be mathematically isomorphic. ...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:04 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I don't understand how you can say Occam's Razor is stupid - less assumptions the better is just obvious - are you stupid? It is not "obvious". A theory with more assumptions that predicts accurately is objectively better than one with fewer assumptions that predicts incorrectly. Occam's Razor is o...
by Greylorn Ell
Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:07 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

Feel free to waste every one of mine, which you and your fellow philosophers have been doing for the last half century. Have any of you people read Mortimer Adler's "How to Read a Book," or Kuhn's "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions?" I'd guess that with a few exceptions you've been too busy w...
by Greylorn Ell
Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

Whenever possible, substitute constructions out of known entities for inferences to unknown entities. Translated-- Let's figure out how the universe began, and how it works, by using the real information, the physics, that we actually know about it instead of philosophical principles that are subje...
by Greylorn Ell
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:09 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

Arising_uk wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:35 am
Please spare us Beon theory again!
Here's a special plan just for you and other pinheads-- Inasmuch as you are not capable of understanding it, why not simply decline to peruse it? Duh? :? GL
by Greylorn Ell
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:46 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I think this is a more forward thinking, practical manifestation perhaps knocking Occam's Razor off the top shelf, so to speak. In its effect, it comprehends what we know, and from that permits more metaphysical consideration of the possibilities rather that just stating, hey that's an assumption, ...
by Greylorn Ell
Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:08 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

By example, I did not mean more of your obscure and meaningless theoretical horseshit. Produce a real, practical example, or go away and try to infect some other thread. -GL
by Greylorn Ell
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:38 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

You need a necessary number of correct premises. For example: sometimes you cannot make the argument with two premises and you need to make the argument in two steps, the conclusion of the first part becomes the first premises of second part. WTF are you talking about? Back up this bullshit with an...
by Greylorn Ell
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

I don't think your whining is so much of a problem as your arrogance. If people are less knowledgeable than yourself about a particular subject matter, does not mean they are necessarily less intelligent than yourself, and perhaps they could gain great insight by what you have to offer. For me this...
by Greylorn Ell
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

... so I no longer recall them. Greylorn Not rules, my approach. Refresh yourself and stop bellyaching. https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=394 AMod. AMod, Rules reviewed, point taken, suitably chastised. Thank you! I'll stop whining. I'd prefer to manage my own threads without both...
by Greylorn Ell
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:32 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 7935

Re: "Occam's Razor would seem most useful as far as I can tell".

henry quirk wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:24 pm
Me, I prefer: Start with what you know, don't make shit up along the way.
Me too. Excellent paraphrasing. GE