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Secular spirituality is an oxymoron which flat-lines the very idea of itself. Spiritual experiences do not need to be modified into secular or theistic as distinct from the other. The more I listen to people referring to "spirituality" from a non-theistic perspective, the more I am convinced that i...

Here's a question I haven't seen others get into. When you listen to a song, with or without singing, do you just listen to it for its sound (which I often do which I think makes me an audiophile) or do you keenly listen for the words, or it depends? PhilX 🇺🇸 In music produced commercially, most of...

First of all, if men viewed women as objects... I don't think there's any doubt that men can view women as objects, the issue here is whether it is OK to view people as objects. By objectification we actually mean that a person is reduced to a means to an end, becoming merely instrumental. And so, ...

"Spirit" usually I don't mind, but "spiritual" and "spirituality" I tend to avoid. I'd rather use the appropriate psychological terms: intellectual, emotional, affective, social, etc.

I'd love to know what's spiritual about Sagan or Tyson especially the latter. What have they said or done which makes them spiritual? Tyson keeps proclaiming that humans are made of star stuff but left out the Ebola virus, cancer cells and suchlike. Everything existing in the universe, animate or i...

... Carl Sagan, Neil DeGrasse ... You are correct that people like Sagan and Tyson do embrace the weirdness of existence. I would consider each to be "spiritual", much more so than many who claim to be, and they are/were too open-minded to lock themselves into materialism. They never held ideologie...

Why not just secularism? Why not just humanism? Because they are as boring at batshit, pardon my French, monsieur. But that doesn't say much, does it? I mean, human interests can be so diverse and anything can be thought to be boring or interesting, so that doesn't seem to be a valid criteria as to...

If it doesn't mean anything then why did the notion resonate with some of us? There's a difference between hearing the echo of music and listening with precision the notes of the 2nd movement of Beethoven's Ninth. Maybe some people want a bit of what religion has but without the mythology? Maybe, i...

Conde, what I did was provide my view about secular spirituality. What would you have me do? Provide someone else's view? In providing my own view, at odds with the OP, I was passively disagreeing with the accuracy of the Wiki article. Do you have a problem with that? It seems to me that MY particu...

That's evidently false, because I've made no associations between any statement of yours or anyone else in this forum and new age or pseudoscience. Again, I've been very specific about the Wikipedia article. Nonsense! You are forcing me to go through the whole copy-paste annoyance because you are b...

Greta, as Marjoram_blues seems to have noticed (since I've stated it repeatedly) I have chosen to focus on the Wikipedia article. And I've just stated above that I'm not saying what Greta believes or should believe, but yet you come back to complain about it. I know my English is not top notch, but...

Unfortunately, CL chooses to focus on certain aspects of the wiki content, despite being corrected. It is fine to be challenged - in the spirit of philosophy. However, this type of continual misrepresentation is not. As noted from the confessions of some participants, they all have done the same, i...

Conde, I have made clear what I see as secular spirituality. I would rather not have the Wiki article attributed to me - I happen to have my own mind which means that my version of secular spirituality does not coincide with Wikipedia's. Why are you attributing things I haven't said to me? Why try ...

Nice retreat: implying that all that nonsense was just a joke. Retreat? I'm waiting for this 'ace' of yours? You just don't worry...yet. I'm not flashing that card, but it's already in my hand. Ooo did I appear worried? What is it gov, let us all gave a gander? "If you don't like how the table is s...

Marj and I could not have made it more clear that secular spirituality need have nothing whatsoever to do with pseudoscience. Your response above is very weak, displaying mechanistic thinking and a general lack of comprehension. There is not much point wasting time unless you can lift your game. Ar...