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by Immanuel Can
Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 13523

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

You're upset. I get that. I apologize if I am the cause of that upset. However, we are here to discuss philosophy, are we not? So we need not become personal and nasty in the process. We can discuss the ideas without assassinating each other's personalities, or so I believe. So I'm going to take the...
by Immanuel Can
Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Ask a Christian Theist
Replies: 157
Views: 23473

Re: Ask a Christian Theist

Omnipotence admits to no other agency by god. This is definitive. Actually, your allegation is a non-sequitur : it doesn't follow logically. For example, suppose you "have power" to beat your spouse...does that mean you *do* it too? Omnipotence implies, " having all power." It doesn't mean "always ...
by Immanuel Can
Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:49 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 13523

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

On reading about Hinduism I found that there is a version of the Triune God. Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, different forms of the same all-pervading Brahman. I realize that others may have different interpretations of this, but this is the way I see it. thedoc: I don't want to be contentious -- I actually...
by Immanuel Can
Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:25 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: ~ Proof That God Exists ~
Replies: 60
Views: 9287

Re: ~ Proof That God Exists ~

Actually, Arising_uk is right on target. The basic laws of logic say that things cannot "be" and "not be" at the same time. And that's not his mere opinion, but rather a fundamental of logic. It's quite useless to argue against him, since in order to do so at all, you are yourself forced to rely on ...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:32 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 13523

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Seriously? This is your best shot? Your entire theory depends on a precise interpretation of a single word: "within." I had no idea you were such a literalist! :D Unfortunately for you, the word you're trying to use literally is " entos ," in Greek...it mea...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:26 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 13523

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

In fact I have considered changing many times but then I've come to realize that at the core, all religions are basically the same, it's only all the window dressing that differs. So I'll stay where I am as far as churches go, and carefully choose where I put my faith. I guess that's why I don't sa...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:12 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 13523

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

That's pretty funny. For a second, I almost thought "yellow and black" myself, but then realized ours are red and white. I don't have a problem imagining that a lot of people are religious or atheistic out of mere rote habit or traditional expectation. I'm pretty sure it's true, in fact. Maybe one o...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:43 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is Jesus Christ a man or a god?
Replies: 298
Views: 33868

Re: Is Jesus Christ a man or a god?

much of it has been corrupted by later writers who were promoting some policy that neither Jesus nor any of his followers, advanced in his teachings. Well, I assume then that you have proof this is what happened? I hope you have something better than the usual fare that goes along with this allegat...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:30 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 13523

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

If you follow the teachings of Jesus as most Christians say they do then you would know that Jesus says to look within ourselves for God and that his laws are written in our hearts. I do. Unfortunately, you're following old wives' tales. Jesus Christ never said this. Nor does any other part of the ...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:26 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 13523

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

Then you are in good, if sparse, company as most of the Christians I have encountered welcome rules and dogma (propositions?). Wow. That's super sad...but common enough, I suppose. Yet we should not judge a belief by those who fail to follow it properly, should we? Not unless it proves entirely imp...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:01 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: ~ Proof That God Exists ~
Replies: 60
Views: 9287

Re: ~ Proof That God Exists ~

As far as your interpretation of the terms upon this thread I believe that we have some common ground; When it comes to the subject of gods - belief is just as valid as logic. Both are false. You've misunderstood me, I'm afraid. I didn't suggest that because a belief is probabilistic it's "false." ...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:38 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 13523

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

What else could someone be seeking when seeking God other than his laws and rules? Why, a Person, of course. Not a "big, flying guy," obviously: that would be childish. But a Supreme Entity with a consciousness, will, identity, purposes, characteristics and qualities of His own, one with Whom one c...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:46 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 13523

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

Doesn't work for me. I don't think it is necessary to assume the existence of something to seek it, I don't think you have to assume there is a cure for cancer or a resolution to the middle east for there to be a point seeking them. That said, seeking god is of a different order and those that find...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:32 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: ~ Proof That God Exists ~
Replies: 60
Views: 9287

Re: ~ Proof That God Exists ~

I have no desire to be contentious, however your claim is unfair to Plantinga, and in the interest of fairness, I should challenge it further. ...so, you have an individual, Alvin Plantinga, saying that people can know a god exists by belief alone. Remember I said that it's easy to caricature, misre...