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by Immanuel Can
Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis
Replies: 146
Views: 23551

Re: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis

Because the obvious solution is not necessarily true. If it was then the world would be flat and the Sun goes around the Earth. For myself, it's exactly the immense complexity that points towards something other than a 'designer' at work. Well, I admit, of course, that the data is somewhat ambiguou...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis
Replies: 146
Views: 23551

Re: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis

Well, it's certainly *in* Milton's "Paradise Lost," but actually Milton's account is an imaginative extrapolation from passages like Isaiah 14 or Revelation 12, which recount the fall of Lucifer (meaning, "light bearer," or "the morning star") in poetic or apocalyptic language.

Just FYI.
by Immanuel Can
Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:37 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass
Replies: 24
Views: 3664

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

A photon has no mass?

I didn't even know they were Catholic.
by Immanuel Can
Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis
Replies: 146
Views: 23551

Re: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis

Just let us know where you'd like to go from here, IC. Would you like me to respond to your last post to me? Or would you prefer to explore new directions? Well, Harry, perhaps we understand each other as well as we can for the moment, and we might even benefit if we take a bit of a break to rethin...
by Immanuel Can
Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:48 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis
Replies: 146
Views: 23551

Re: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis

Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch, ArisingUK: you're back! Nice to hear from you again. We haven't chatted for a bit, so this will be good. One problem, though: neither you nor Harry is particularly brief (and I realize that I'm the pot calling the kettle "black" about that :) ), and there are only so m...
by Immanuel Can
Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:27 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?
Replies: 202
Views: 26279

Re: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?

You used an interesting phrase - a creator with noble intent. Perhaps you didn't mean it the way I understood it - a kind of "suck it and see" on god's part to see how humanity will pan out. You're quite right: that's not what I meant. I was just giving all the various traditions credit for some id...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:17 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?
Replies: 202
Views: 26279

Re: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?

How can you say that when it appears that you understand different religions have different and often contradictory conceptions of who God is? Another good question, MMasz. I'm with you. The various 'gods' speak differently, reveal themselves as characteristically different from one another, claim ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:25 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?
Replies: 202
Views: 26279

Re: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?

They have Tesco where you're from? Not where I'm from *now*, but in that fabulous place from which both my ancestors and you hail. :D I wrote: What I find appalling, though, is the suggestion that "all religions are morally equivalent." So the antithesis of that statement is that some religions are...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:04 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?
Replies: 202
Views: 26279

Re: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?

When everyone would understand that every other religion is just as valid as the one they follow, the world would be a lot more peaceful. To paraphrase 'All religions lead to God'. This would help -- somewhat, but not much. Most wars are not caused by religion, but by other things. Again, let's jus...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:00 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?
Replies: 202
Views: 26279

Re: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?

According to Joseph Campbell, all Mythologies can be traced back to the same few Myths as their origin. Since religion grows our of Mythology, all religions have the same origins, and are morally equivalent. Yep. That's what Joseph Campbell says, alright. But think again, thedoc. Do we really mean ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:27 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?
Replies: 202
Views: 26279

Re: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?

I see the relative merits of Islam has got you all riled up, IC? I take it you're not a fan? Not quite, Aiddon. I don't argue with the right of Islamic persons to choose their beliefs. What I find appalling, though, is the suggestion that "all religions are morally equivalent." It wouldn't matter w...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?
Replies: 202
Views: 26279

Re: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?

But your interpretation is wrong, there is a definite restriction on when and who they can kill, you are just rationalizing the extremist position and not the beliefs of Islam. The extremes do not prove the mean. Controversy over interpretation isn't dishonesty, though. I was speaking the truth as ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis
Replies: 146
Views: 23551

Re: Calvin on the Sensus Divinitatis

You haven't told us anything about what goodness actually *is*, That's because the question makes no sense from a Theistic perspective, Harry. How can "good," which is inherently an adjectival property, be described in the absolute absence of reference to any primary thing that bears that quality? ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:24 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?
Replies: 202
Views: 26279

Re: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?

Islam does not have a prohibition on killing, especially infidels (see Sura 2:191, for example).
Direct quotation. Exactly what I said, as you can see.
by Immanuel Can
Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:47 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?
Replies: 202
Views: 26279

Re: Is religion guilty of moving the goalposts?

"[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors. [2:191] You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque...