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by Immanuel Can
Sun Oct 02, 2016 3:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

Well I suppose there's two sides to every story, so it depends what side one is on. One side is the real unfettred non-conceptual blank page of pure beingness. And the other side is the unreal fettered conceptual array of letters and words. But none of this really matters, since the story is in sep...
by Immanuel Can
Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:18 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: The problem of self under materialism
Replies: 214
Views: 19314

Re: The problem of self under materialism

I don't think of it as something you would attempt to "live as" a determinist or a reductionist. It's just a question of what you believe when you're examining something very seriously. One can't "live as" a "very serious" person all the time. Who said "serious?" I just said that one can't actually...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:27 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: The problem of self under materialism
Replies: 214
Views: 19314

Re: The problem of self under materialism

In a deterministic world, there are no agents, just regions through which cause-effect chains travel, and thus no capability. Indeed so. That would be the case. But I have never met someone who can actually live (consistently) as a Determinist, so I don't think it's a hypothesis worth entertaining ...
by Immanuel Can
Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:23 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

You cannot deny or argue with the ''truth'' Immanuel Can....every one has it, because they are it. It's just that some don't know it, or have forgotten it. And what, pray tell, is the source of this "forgetting"? What force causes these allegedly truth bearing entities called humans to be born so i...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:31 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

The attributes you mentioned (personal characteristics, desires, purposes and actions) are related to mental states. Any state has specific form otherwise one cannot distinguish states from each other. We're in danger here of making a false analogy between "human being" and "Supreme Being," and try...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:50 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

By form I mean configuration. Configuration means the relative disposition or arrangement of the parts or elements of a thing. God has no parts or elements has hence cannot have any form. Well by "configuration," God is a Trinity. By "disposition," he has specific personal characteristics, desires,...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

As for Zen,there are those who spend their entire lives reading into the truth of Zen and still don't get it or even begin to understand it, and then there are those who just know it instinctively. It's just the way it is. Then "Zen" is a mystical experience, but not a philosophy. Since it cannot h...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

People exist as an awareness of thought, in this case the conceptual thought of ''person'' - that is how 'person' is known. But Awareness has never actually seen a person, because a person is just an empty thought known by awareness... Yeah, I've read a lot of this "gnostic" style of writing, parti...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:56 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

God has no form since It is spiritual... This is an Eastern assumption, I think. As I said before, in the West, God is said not to be "all things" (and hence of no particular form), but "personal," so to speak, with a definite character and nature, and hence has a "form " in that sense... ...it's j...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

I'm not here for a fight, I'm here to show people something different. I'm here to say there is no need for fighting, how can oneness have an argument with itself...or want to hurt itself? 8) "People"? :shock: Can we be sure they even exist? Or are you just your own mind playing tricks on itself? :...
by Immanuel Can
Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:46 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

bahman wrote:So what about my argument? Do you have any counter-argument to show me that I am wrong somewhere?
Ummm...how did you miss it? :shock:

You'll have to go back several pages to find it, but its that premises 2 and 3 aren't solid.
by Immanuel Can
Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:44 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

bahman wrote:Yes, I read his comment about form of Christian God but that is no fulfill me.
Me no understand. :wink:
by Immanuel Can
Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:20 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

I could swear I said that... :? I do understand why some people just throw up their hands and walk away from these internet Trolls, especially the ones who just seem to be here for a fight, and not to really discuss anything. They just disagree and argue for the sake of a fight. It seems so. Still,...
by Immanuel Can
Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

Thank you. That was long. You however didn't answer my question: Does God have a form in western system of belief in order to hold knowledge? The God of Christianity is a Trinity. That means God has a specified "form," though not the kind of "form" humans do, so we can't draw immediate analogies fr...
by Immanuel Can
Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God's knowledge?
Replies: 113
Views: 10506

Re: God's knowledge?

So what is the western concept of God? Does your God has form? In the Western view (see Judaism, Christianity, Islam and various others) "God" refers to the Supreme Being. But He has identity, will, specific characteristics and a definite nature. He is never thought to be "all things in one," and e...