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by Harbal
Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: An act of God
Replies: 73
Views: 834

Re: An act of God

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:20 pm
Well it didn't take me long to rub him up the wrong way.
Some people wake up every morning with the intention of being rubbed up the wrong way. They don't leave you much choice.
by Harbal
Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:11 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: An act of God
Replies: 73
Views: 834

Re: An act of God

Reminds me of the old 'so there just happened to be a big bang, that just happened to result in a universe, that just happened to have a Sun which just happened to be just the right distance away from a planet......' religio argument. It's like the lottery. Yes, it's highly unlikely that 'you' will...
by Harbal
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: An act of God
Replies: 73
Views: 834

An act of God

Our foreman once sent a couple of us to replace a broken window pane at the local church hall. The churchwarden, a rather stern man, was already there waiting for us. He seemed very perplexed when we arrived, and appeared to have a great need to know what the broken window might mean. While we were ...
by Harbal
Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Proof of god is a moral question. Do you see the morals shown for god as good or evil?
Replies: 13
Views: 166

Re: Proof of god is a moral question. Do you see the morals shown for god as good or evil?

Proof of god is a moral question. No it isn't. It's only when you start to talk about the nature of God that morality comes into it. Morality is a human construct and so is god, it is up to us whether we associate them. Jesus said to love all people including your enemies and if Jesus is Yahweh the...
by Harbal
Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:28 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: x
Replies: 8
Views: 207

Re: The Meaning of Life - Original New Theory (Pt 2)

Sculptor wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:00 am
Maybe the cream will continue to help.
That reminds me, I've still got some strawberries in the fridge.
by Harbal
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:55 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: x
Replies: 8
Views: 207

Re: The Meaning of Life - Original New Theory (Pt 2)

Sculptor wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:23 am
Are you still sore?
Sore about what?
by Harbal
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:13 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: x
Replies: 8
Views: 207

Re: The Meaning of Life - Original New Theory (Pt 2)

Sculptor wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:46 pm
So is this going to be the basis of a horror story or more like a fantasy with goblins and fairies?
Long time no see. :wink:
by Harbal
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 9060

Re: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION

Crime rate reduction (less unwanted/abandoned children). Lower death rates for mothers who seek unsanitary abortions on the black market. Early termination of unviable offspring (genetic defects, other illnesses etc.) Those are the three I can remember off the top of my head. Yes, apart from all th...
by Harbal
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 9060

Re: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION

Immanuel Can wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:43 pm
At the same time, an opinion is not a basis for policy, of course.
As far as abortion is concerned, there is nothing else to base policy on.
by Harbal
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:37 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 9060

Re: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION

Well, there are a couple of assumptions in this claim, and they'd need proof. No, IC, let me stop you there. I am not going to read any further, I am not going to get tangled up in your convolutions and spurious threads masquerading as logic. I was expressing my opinion, not making a claim. I canno...
by Harbal
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:48 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 9060

Re: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION

But the problem with that point is that one doesn't state things that one expects to have "no weight." Why bother? But where is any "weight" at all coming from, and why should any of us agree to pick it up, if Peter's opinion simply "has no more weight" than its total opposite? I don't really know ...
by Harbal
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 569
Views: 9060

Re: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION

Immanuel Can wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 4:32 pm
But if you're saying, "IC is wrong to have a strongly-held moral opinion,"
I don't think anyone is saying that. But it is only an opinion, it carries no more or less weight than the opposite opinion; I think that is the point that is being made.
by Harbal
Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1817
Views: 51872

Re: What could make morality objective?

I disagree. Lightwaves and brain-processing (electrical and chemical) to produce perception are real things we can measure. We may well be able to measure various kinds of brain activity, but I don't think we are yet able to measure the nature or degree of a perception. Can we even infer the presen...
by Harbal
Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:25 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1817
Views: 51872

Re: What could make morality objective?

But do you think moral rightness and wrongness are similarly features of reality, like lightwaves and brains? There is a similarity, but not a complete parallel. Lightwaves exist, but our perception of them is constructed in the brain/mind. A particular situation could be said to exist, but the nat...
by Harbal
Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:15 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1817
Views: 51872

Re: What could make morality objective?

Sorry, but I think you're in a muddle. Colours are features of reality, outside our minds. (I assume you're not an idealist.) But moral rightness and wrongness are not such features of reality, outside our minds. Colours exist when there's no one to perceive and categorise them. But there can be no...