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by uwot
Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: So what's not to like
Replies: 61
Views: 754

Re: So what's not to like

Jesus _ So what's not to like? Original sin. The idea that babies are guilty, just for being born, and have to surrender their critical faculties the moment they acquire them, to be pardoned for what someone who listened to a talking snake did. The punishment for not doing so being eternal torture....
by uwot
Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 316
Views: 4692

Re: There is no emergence

I really don't buy any version of a 'fine tuned argument' as proof of anything. And why should you? - especially when it is so easy to visualize how the utterly ham-handed processes of gravity and thermodynamics could get the job done - That's pretty much what I have tried to do in my book. You kno...
by uwot
Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea
Replies: 32
Views: 520

Re: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea

Atla wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:01 pm
Yes you didn't even notice, that's why I won't try again.
Ah well. Could you at least point me to where you explained it?
by uwot
Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea
Replies: 32
Views: 520

Re: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea

Atla wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:42 pm
It's a fact (unless proven otherwise) that the universe isn't made of anything, like 'stuff' for example.
Whut? Something that isn't proven otherwise is a fact?
Atla wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:42 pm
I won't explain that again.
Well, you've asserted it a few times, but I have never seen you explain it.
by uwot
Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea
Replies: 32
Views: 520

Re: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea

That's exactly not what physical encoding means when it comes to Black holes, where the physical stuff is supposed to be it's own encoding or some crazy shit like that. Well, it's the age old problem of ontology. All we know is that the information exists. It looks like particles exist and if they ...
by uwot
Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea
Replies: 32
Views: 520

Re: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea

The universe isn't actually 'made of stuff'. Seems like a perfectly plausible hypothesis to me. Why are you convinced it isn't? The point was that if we conceptualize the universe as physical stuff, then information is an abstraction of that physical stuff, like what is true about it. Dunno if you'...
by uwot
Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea
Replies: 32
Views: 520

Re: Information encoded on Black hole horizons is a mindnumbingly stupid idea

Saying that information, an abstraction about physical stuff, is encoded in physical stuff, is a thinking error nothing more. It's nonsensical, it's impossible, it's crazy. Well, if you take the view that the universe is made of some sort of 'stuff', (It's physical Jim, but not as we know it.) then...
by uwot
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: EVIL!!!!!!!!
Replies: 429
Views: 4890

Re: EVIL!!!!!!!!

You are ignorant of [a]theism, preferably non-a-theist or a non-theism. I think that's pretty obviously not true. I've taken your word for this definition, and the word of other Atheists. If you lied, it's not my fault. I took your word. Don't be silly, Mr Can. Many atheists have told you they don'...
by uwot
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:19 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: One for the loons.
Replies: 189
Views: 2680

Re: One for the loons.

barbarianhorde wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:05 pm
Yeah, I noticed you've not been paying any attention at all.
I'm a busy old sausage.
barbarianhorde wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:05 pm
The dichotomy between "objective" and "subjective".
Ah, thanks for the clarification. So you think your misattributed 'subjective' experience is actually the same as everyone else's?
by uwot
Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: One for the loons.
Replies: 189
Views: 2680

Re: One for the loons.

I dont believe in anything. I just know oxygen is objectively valuable to a mammal. So it is objectively required for a specific type of subject 's survival. I think most of the (non loony) people here know that if you deprive a mammal of oxygen, it will quickly die. See how I went beyond the whole...
by uwot
Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: One for the loons.
Replies: 189
Views: 2680

Re: One for the loons.

...except that common sense, if one really has it, would know that opinions are not facts nor are they theory but merely temporary placeholders in one's current view of reality. It would also realize that a conclusion can be perfectly logical even though its premises are false which happens all the...
by uwot
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 316
Views: 4692

Re: There is no emergence

That which appears to emerge has emerged from within itself only to appear on the outside of it's inside. Therefore, that which appears to emerge, never actually emerges at all. Appearances are the emergence of that which never emerged. Emergence is self owned. Deep. No, on seconds thoughts, it's c...
by uwot
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:29 am
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 316
Views: 4692

Re: There is no emergence

Now, now, uwot (me old bean) there’s no need to be rude. We’re all just having a little fun here, sharing our delusions and flawed blatherings in this online virtual nuthouse. Aw seeds, what makes you think I'm having a pop at you? I just figured that it would be a given that the idealist being ref...
by uwot
Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: EVIL!!!!!!!!
Replies: 429
Views: 4890

Re: EVIL!!!!!!!!

..."I'm not "disparaging" anything. I'm just going step by step, according to Atheism, and showing you where it leads..." But Mr Can, you have included two steps that no atheist would agree to: The god described in the bible exists. Good is whatever that character says it is. ...If you think you ca...
by uwot
Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:27 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Science
Topic: There is no emergence
Replies: 316
Views: 4692

Re: There is no emergence

.Noumena cause phenomena. Probably. But try telling an idealist. That’s easy for an idealist to handle. Well seeds, me old china, everything is easy for anyone who has all the answers. The idealist would simply state that mind is the arena (the living “emulsion,” so to speak) in which noumena and p...