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by Ginkgo
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:42 pm
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

Well, I don't think we "see" any such thing. We have no reason to grant Krauss's "basis," since it's just untrue. What basis might that be? I also understand that there are at least 10 different speculative quantum models that are currently being floated. It looks like somebody is trying very hard ...
by Ginkgo
Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:43 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

On this basis we can see that nothing is really something. Well, I don't think we "see" any such thing. We have no reason to grant Krauss's "basis," since it's just untrue. I also understand that there are at least 10 different speculative quantum models that are currently being floated. It looks l...
by Ginkgo
Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:58 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

Taken this way it is possible to see that such a universe can begin from nothing. As I said before, I haven't read the book so I am only guessing. Well, that's not quite Lawrence Krauss's proposed 'solution.' His requires a "something" to be called a "nothing." I tend to agree that Krauss requires ...
by Ginkgo
Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:44 pm
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

I can't really comment on Albert's criticism of Krauss because I haven't read his book. I thought the title sounded interesting. Well, yes; but the dangers of such loose, sensationalist titles is that they seem to promise something that the author just does not deliver. And yet a non-reader of the ...
by Ginkgo
Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:13 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

Funny you should say this, Lawrence Krauss wrote a book called 'A Universe From Nothing." Within the quantum world causality does go out the window. However, apparently Krauss doesn't actually posit a "nothing" at all. The title's a fake, really. He's promising what he doesn't even try to deliver, ...
by Ginkgo
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:40 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

A quantum state is not a "nothing." Well, I did say except for a quantum state. However, I take your point, I should have chosen my words a little more carefully. So even if we postulate just that, we get a "something" that needs explanation. Why that "something" behaved in the way it is said to ha...
by Ginkgo
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:49 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

WHY do you think its a problem ? In order for God to have created the Universe it has to be finite An infinite Universe removes the need for any creator and so cannot be accepted So his objection is therefore metaphysical rather than scientific or mathematical An infinite God is causeless and so co...
by Ginkgo
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:41 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

Don't forget, the Big Bang was not an explosion, it was an expansion...Remember? An explosion occurs in space while an expansion is the creation of space. The BB is not actually the creation of space. The theory holds that "things" existed prior to the BB, such as gases and plasma. So it's not the ...
by Ginkgo
Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:46 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

Everything is moving away from everything else; the outer most galaxies are moving way from us faster than the speed of light. The best calculations so far point to a universe that will expand for ever. A ray, a line with a definite starting point and an infinite trajectory, is not an empirical imp...
by Ginkgo
Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:56 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

Unless or until an infinite Universe can be falsified it will remain a valid propostion The fact that it is not logical is irrelevant as logic and empiricism are not the same Actually, you are correct. We now know we live in a flat universe (in 2 dimensions). Everything is moving away from everythi...
by Ginkgo
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:12 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

A quantum state obviously isn't a "nothing." It's a state OF something. For example, if it's a state "of matter," then we're back to the infinite regress problem, because the "matter" in question needs a causal explanation of its own. In that case, we would be positing that the quantum state was a ...
by Ginkgo
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Grandaddy's Gun
Replies: 108
Views: 6575

Re: Grandaddy's Gun

In the Sandy Hook, Newton school killings the boy with the gun did not hesitate to point a gun in the faces of six/seven year old children and pull the trigger. 20 children were massacred clinically and with utter precision, leaving no chance that life would continue. Lanza was allowed to have guns...
by Ginkgo
Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

A quantum state obviously isn't a "nothing." It's a state OF something. For example, if it's a state "of matter," then we're back to the infinite regress problem, because the "matter" in question needs a causal explanation of its own. In that case, we would be positing that the quantum state was a ...
by Ginkgo
Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:31 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

I thought that the design argument was a teleological argument. That depends on what you mean by "teleological argument." If you mean that an "end" or "outcome" ( telos ) has to be implied, it isn't. The design argument follows the pattern of argument-to-the-best-explanation. In that, it's differen...
by Ginkgo
Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:54 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Is God necessary for morality?
Replies: 427
Views: 18541

Re: Is God necessary for morality?

From there, we must pick up a new argument if we wish to figure out the identity and precise nature of the Supreme Being...which is why more than one such argument exists in the first place. And my suggestion is that the design argument is the best next candidate, or the teleological argument. Both...