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by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

Why should I not want to eliminate evils? Don't you? Can we not agree that evil is bad and should be prevented as much as possible? Or why do you think I should want ANY evil in the world? So you believe that if God were good, he would have also eliminated ALL the world's evils, from the virus plag...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:25 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

IC, between me and God, who is responsible for more deaths in this world? Which of us do you think has been an agent in the destruction of more human beings? I'm not contesting that, Gary. I'm trying to take the measure of your accusation against God. I want to see how committed you feel to this id...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:19 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

IC, between me and God, who is responsible for more deaths in this world? Which of us do you think has been an agent in the destruction of more human beings?
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

How much better? How much better than you are now, would a truly good God make you? I mean, if He were a truly good God... Pretty sad when most people I know are better moral beings than God. That was not my question, Gary. You don't need to prove you're better than God. But in your belief that God...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

Immanuel Can wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:01 pm
Gary Childress wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:59 pm
God could make me better too.
How much better? How much better than you are now, would a truly good God make you?

I mean, if He were a truly good God...
Pretty sad when most people I know are better moral beings than God.
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

Immanuel Can wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:01 pm
Gary Childress wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:59 pm
God could make me better too.
How much better? How much better than you are now, would a truly good God make you?

I mean, if He were a truly good God...
For starters, God probably needs to work on himself more than he does me. He's got the bigger body count.
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

Immanuel Can wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:01 pm
Gary Childress wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:59 pm
God could make me better too.
How much better? How much better than you are now, would a truly good God make you?

I mean, if He were a truly good God...
What is your point with all these questions?
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:59 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

All the evil in the world? Could a genuinely good God allow a little bit? What would be the reason for allowing a little bit of evil? None, perhaps. But I just want to check so I know how far your accusation against God would be likely to go. It seems now that you are (probably rightly) rejecting t...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

It's hard for me to "make the best of it" when people are dying so horribly. I prefer to complain to the landlord... Have you ever complained to your earthly landlord (the USA) about how he uses your rent money (taxes) to purposely and consciously rain down horrifying means of death and destruction...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

Not at all, Gary. I'm just trying to find out how far the accusation against God rationally goes. So to summarize: A good God would prevent viruses. A good God would prevent hurricanes, cancer, bacteria, and other such similar evils. A good God would prevent slavery, exploitation rape, wars, and so...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:43 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

I'm assuming that, too. But I see a bit of a hold back here...would a good God stop people from misbehaving sexually, or from wanting to? Would it be okay for people to really want to enslave others, but not be able to do it merely because of profit margins? Would a good God allow good inventivenes...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:36 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

Okay. But what about the evils in men? Say, child exploitation, sex trafficking, slavery, rape, war, ethnic cleansing... Could God be good, and prevent viruses and hurricanes and such, but allow the evil that men do to go on? Or would a genuinely good God have to deal with those as well? God could ...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

Sure, why not? Let's get rid of all the maladies so that we can all live good lives. Okay. But what about the evils in men? Say, child exploitation, sex trafficking, slavery, rape, war, ethnic cleansing... Could God be good, and prevent viruses and hurricanes and such, but allow the evil that men d...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:11 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

What is it you think God should have done instead? Not created any viruses to begin with or else not given them the capacity to cause that kind of misery. Alright. So your suggestion is that God should not have created any viruses. Let's roll with that. Just viruses? Or would a good God prevent bac...
by Gary Childress
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God and COVID-19
Replies: 124
Views: 519

Re: God and COVID-19

After reading about some of the horror stories going on in New York and other places in the world from COVID-19 right now--people drowning in their own blood-filled lungs, medical personnel getting sick while trying to help others--it really makes me wonder what kind of "god" presides over such hor...