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by SpheresOfBalance
Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:30 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Ah - well, I think you are refering to my leaving off of 'actuality' in the definition. This is bacause, again, I would need to qualify what is meant by actual. :) Actual often is meant as 'that which is apparent of the physical world' as I take our definition - which excludes the more subjective e...
by SpheresOfBalance
Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:54 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

My point as to 'atrocities' was that I was not suggesting that there are no human atrocities. And you commented that you do not condone any activity that would knowingly do harm - at least to that effect, you said. I said I might have a small objection, since if someone were to maliciously rape my ...
by SpheresOfBalance
Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:26 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

bobevenson wrote:Evolution based on survival of the fittest is not an assumption, my friend.
You're not very bright my friend, read again and see if your capable of finding a different meaning, but I doubt it!
by SpheresOfBalance
Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:59 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Humankind's history of needless killing is one of my pet peeves. Sure I understand it from a neanderthal's perspective, but modern man????? Please use the term "mankind" instead of the pretentious "humankind," and why should needless killing be one of your pet peeves? Mr. Charles Darwin would have ...
by SpheresOfBalance
Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:58 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

What I see is that you 'jumped' back into your 'belief'. So we will call our investigation a comfortable truce. Yes I would like to comment on the atrocities. In just a moment... So what specifically causes you to believe that I've 'jumped' back to 'belief.' I hope it's not about the Psyche formati...
by SpheresOfBalance
Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:12 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

If you were a being that existed prior to the universes' birth and lived to present then you would know The absolute truth of it. But in fact you were born unknowing at the end of it's life of 13.73 billion Earth years. How could you possibly know it? We're just babies. I thought we pretty much kno...
by SpheresOfBalance
Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:58 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Assuming a universe, not of purposeful creation, whereby the hand of the creator guides all cause and effect and that instead the cause and effect was of random chance encounters, I propose the following: The Universe is approximately 13.73 billion years old. Simple cells came into existence on Ear...
by SpheresOfBalance
Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:31 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

--------- Sidebar --------- As to directly answering the threads allusions, (apparently Bill meant actually "seeing"; optically. Or maybe it's more correct to say that he answered it at the same time that he asked it ;-) ),i.e., that we can't see the truth, and that something precludes our seeing i...
by SpheresOfBalance
Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:38 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

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by SpheresOfBalance
Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:37 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

At this point prior to any concession, I have to make a distinction. I agree that the ' ability of being conscious' and the ' act of thinking' actually exit in truth, whatever their true essence. But only in so much as the following are true. With regard to consciousness, there is not necessarily a...
by SpheresOfBalance
Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:22 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

--------- Sidebar --------- As to directly answering the threads allusions, (apparently Bill meant actually "seeing"; optically. Or maybe it's more correct to say that he answered it at the same time that he asked it ;-) ),i.e., that we can't see the truth, and that something precludes our seeing it...
by SpheresOfBalance
Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:55 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Yet, i still see a problem in our definition, as to your proposal and agreed upon by me, that we together endeavor to discover what may be 'true'; I must ask then: how can something of the universe be separate from the universe? How could something which is based in Truth, (that is, our brains, our...
by SpheresOfBalance
Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:36 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

At this point prior to any concession, I have to make a distinction. I agree that the ' ability of being conscious' and the ' act of thinking' actually exit in truth, whatever their true essence. But only in so much as the following are true. With regard to consciousness, there is not necessarily a...
by SpheresOfBalance
Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:52 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Yes, I agree. That is what I was siptulating, that in so far as human beings, and its brain and neuropathways etc.. Exist, likewise then the 'effects', (as to physical objects: gravity, mass etc.., and human bodies: thought, consciousness etc..) of such things of the universe exist also. This, incl...
by SpheresOfBalance
Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:57 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?
Replies: 2064
Views: 301726

Re: What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

Perhaps, SOb, you could reference my 'Sagan'-esque definition. Universe or cosmos does not matter to me. I think it might be prudent for our discussion if we find a term that we can both agree upon and go from there. I suggest 'cosmos' or 'universe' because our discerning of what may be true seems ...