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by creativesoul
Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:31 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

My point is: some people really can't process truth. They can't process it without realizing it either. It's not about being feeble, it's probably about having the anterior parts of the neocortex function abnormally for various reasons. If that is the case, then it must also be the case that... ......
by creativesoul
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:20 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

Well, in the example Miki does, doesn't he. He does not have to know what truth is in order to employ it. You are arguing his mind is too feeble, so he can't use the concept. Sure he can, without realizing it. My point is: some people really can't process truth. They can't process it without realiz...
by creativesoul
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:10 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

I'm left wondering exactly what counts as 'processing truth'? What is the criterion, which when met by some candidate or other, counts as a case of processing truth?
by creativesoul
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:06 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

Trump has NO concept of truth and doesn't really understand what lies and truths are. I would say the same about yourself based upon how you used the terms "truth" and "truths". Adding an "s" to truth indicates a plurality. What exactly do you think/believe that truth is such that it could be more ...
by creativesoul
Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

My point is: some people really can't process truth. They can't process it without realizing it either. It's not about being feeble, it's probably about having the anterior parts of the neocortex function abnormally for various reasons. If that is the case, then it must also be the case that either...
by creativesoul
Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:36 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

You do know that Ayer came to the conclusion that logical positivism was guilty of what it charged all meta-physical positions of... right? It was based upon a meta-physical tenet/proposition/assertion/statement... :mrgreen: One of my first serious philosophical reads was Ayer's Problems Of Philoso...
by creativesoul
Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:24 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

I find it quite telling that one spends considerable time attempting to say that s/he has no need for "truth", but in the end simply admits of presupposing/using correspondence. Correspondence to fact/reality is presupposed in all thought/belief. There is no way to avoid it. During language acquisit...
by creativesoul
Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:10 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

See? Timeseeker doesn't have a normally functioning neocortex. He can't grasp the concept of truth/falsehood, can't grasp the concept of objectivity, can't grasp the concept of logic. He thinks that logic and language are synonyms, and has no idea what philosophical discourse is about. Which is why...
by creativesoul
Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:49 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

You do know that Ayer came to the conclusion that logical positivism was guilty of what it charged all meta-physical positions of... right? It was based upon a meta-physical tenet/proposition/assertion/statement... an unfalsifiable one at that... which if we hold the positivists to their own criteri...
by creativesoul
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:02 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

...For tactical (day to day) decision-making real-time information processing produces much better results because you are dealing with up-to-date information.... As if this is always the case? No! That quality of the results of information processing(day to day thinking and it's affect/effect) dep...
by creativesoul
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:19 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

All such thinking presupposes truth as well... There are givens that are presupposed to be true. Because X, Y, and Z are the case then the likelihood of A is... :roll: Are you familiar with Rodney Brooks' work? There is no need for symbolic representation of reality and 'truth'. No. Who claimed the...
by creativesoul
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:33 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

Don't get me wrong, I'm as against truth with a capital "T" just as you are. However, I also realize that that is an inherently inadequate conception that usually conflates truth and belief or truth and reality. The church doesn't negate how thought/belief work. They just made the term "truth" somet...
by creativesoul
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

Not sure why you believe that not using the term "truth" somehow eliminates the presupposition of correspondence. It doesn't.
by creativesoul
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:27 am
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

All such thinking presupposes truth as well... There are givens that are presupposed to be true. Because X, Y, and Z are the case then the likelihood of A is... :roll: So X,Y and Z are axiomatic? Pre-suppositions? Inputs to the black box? Starting conditions? I can narrate the sequence of events un...
by creativesoul
Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Language
Topic: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?
Replies: 628
Views: 22745

Re: Is It Possible To Think Without Language?

If you do not know how to tell if any statement is true or not, then you do not know what they mean either... You're lying my friend... See? Timeseeker doesn't have a normally functioning neocortex. He can't grasp the concept of truth/falsehood, can't grasp the concept of objectivity, can't grasp t...