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by henry quirk
Sat May 18, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?
Replies: 102
Views: 849

Mannie

"It depends on whether or not the lawmakers in your society have become convinced that "rights" are a real and unalienable thing, and whether or not they take seriously their duty to enforce them." Sure. I ain't holdin' my breath on that ever happenin'. Consider: most of the world lives under, is bu...
by henry quirk
Sat May 18, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 123
Views: 1040

veg

You wrote: How many times have you been executed?

How many times have you pulled the trigger, thrown the switch, taken human life?
by henry quirk
Sat May 18, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 123
Views: 1040

Harbal

"Not everyone thinks that a scarcely developed foetus has the same status as a fully formed human being; that is a matter of opinion; a subjective judgement." I get that. But just cuz someone sez 'that's not a person' doesn't make it so. Consider: what a pregnant woman carries, at any point in her p...
by henry quirk
Sat May 18, 2019 3:44 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 123
Views: 1040

Dub

You wrote: A fetus or embryo belongs to the mother not to the state. If the fetus or embryo is just meat then, yeah. If the fetus or embryo is a person, then the fetus or embryo belongs to itself (him- or her-self). As for government: one of the few legit functions of those proxy/employees in govern...
by henry quirk
Sat May 18, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?
Replies: 102
Views: 849

Mannie

"Then their "rights" are only theirs if they have strong arms, and those arm remain permanently strong. The minute they weaken in their ability to enforce their "rights," they will lose them to somebody stronger, or some group that's bigger and can exert more force." But that 'is' the state of affai...
by henry quirk
Sat May 18, 2019 2:33 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 123
Views: 1040

Veg

You asked: How many abortions have you witness(ed) first hand then?

Better question: How many abortions have you had?
by henry quirk
Sat May 18, 2019 1:27 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS", HERE'S THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION
Replies: 123
Views: 1040

Harbal

You wrote: The morality of abortion is a subjective issue If I slice a bed-ridden old man to death for no reason 'cept I could and wanted to: is that a subjective issue? You wrote: The relevant question is whether people who are against it (abortion) have the right to interfere in the lives of those...
by henry quirk
Sat May 18, 2019 1:15 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?
Replies: 102
Views: 849

A_S

This... your right to interact with the world ends at my body. ...squarely brings us back to my opening question: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat? If 'meat' then: meh, do as you like with it. If 'person': then your right to interact with the world ends with his/h...
by henry quirk
Fri May 17, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?
Replies: 102
Views: 849

Belinda

"There are no absolute moral laws any more." Well, there's a moral relativism runnin' rampant, for sure. Not sure that's the same as 'no absolute moral law'. As a once indifferent agnostic who's become a slightly-less indifferent deist, I have to wonder if the house Crom built doesn't mebbe have som...
by henry quirk
Fri May 17, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?
Replies: 102
Views: 849

Age asked... "Why would a human being in this day and age, when this is written, even have or own a gun?" I hunt with my shotgun, and I've self-defended with it, so: self-preservation, self-reliance, self-defense. # "What logical explanation could there be given for a gun to even still be in existen...
by henry quirk
Fri May 17, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?
Replies: 102
Views: 849

FOR THE RECORD

I generated this thread to further conversation. That it strays, meanders, or drifts off-topic or into unexpected territory is fine by me. I'm not an anal-retentive jackhole lookin' to force thread participants to stay on the straight & narrow. 'Bout the only thing I'd prefer not to see in-thread is...
by henry quirk
Fri May 17, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?
Replies: 102
Views: 849

Belinda

"To deny an abortion to a pregnant woman is to deny her right to own her body." Mebbe. Could be, though, that temporary and very narrow restraint of the woman is simply meant to preserve another human life. # "Her foetus is not a person but a foetus and cannot have any rights as it's not in any sens...
by henry quirk
Fri May 17, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?
Replies: 102
Views: 849

"What does 'mebbe' mean?" 'maybe' # "And, what would that information be actually useful for exactly?" You'd have to ask the individual who has an interest. Jane might have a different reason for wantin' to know than Sally who may have a different reason than Stan who may have a different reason tha...
by henry quirk
Fri May 17, 2019 12:54 am
Forum: Applied Ethics
Topic: Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?
Replies: 102
Views: 849

Age

I wrote: How do we determine when thinking and feeling begins, in the womb?

You asked: Do "we" HAVE TO?

No, we don't have to. But, mebbe we want to. Mebbe, for some folks, the information might be useful.