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by Greatest I am
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God given rights. Do you really have any?
Replies: 173
Views: 3167

Re: God given rights. Do you really have any?

Age wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:46 pm
The reason you 'will' not is because you 'can' NOT.
Correct, for the reason you later give that you were just a result of anthropomorphism.

Why you would complain, while showing why I did not bother, shows your strange way of thinking.

Regards
DL
by Greatest I am
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God given rights. Do you really have any?
Replies: 173
Views: 3167

Re: God given rights. Do you really have any?

LOL and are REALLY 'trying to' suggest here that the so called "democratic" societies and political systems are NOT corrupt? What I suggest is that we do not have any real democracies. We all live in oligarchies. In that sense, yes, all our democracies are corrupt. Have a look at what the U.S., as ...
by Greatest I am
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God given rights. Do you really have any?
Replies: 173
Views: 3167

Re: God given rights. Do you really have any?

If a right is given to a soul, by god, he would have a duty to ensure that they are never taken from us. As I reckon it: free will is double-edged; we get to choose & we get to live with the consequences of our choices (includin', especially, the bad ones). And, I reckon it: the linchpin of rights ...
by Greatest I am
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God given rights. Do you really have any?
Replies: 173
Views: 3167

Re: God given rights. Do you really have any?

God never gave any rights; neither has he subtracted any. It's non-existence offers the same conclusion. One's rights is usually determined by status which has nothing to do with merit. I will not argue against this. We tend to take rights to ourselves as they cannot be given, as you say. That does...
by Greatest I am
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?
Replies: 31
Views: 794

Re: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?

They are being RE-told. and that is why the original intention is always irrelevant. To say other wise is to misunderstand what the meaning of myth is. A myth can be interpreted in a number of ways as shown by Jews seeing Original Virtue for man in Eden, while Christians see Original Sin, the exact...
by Greatest I am
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:20 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God given rights. Do you really have any?
Replies: 173
Views: 3167

Re: God given rights. Do you really have any?

If a right is given to a soul, by god, he would have a duty to ensure that they are never taken from us. As I reckon it: free will is double-edged; we get to choose & we get to live with the consequences of our choices (includin', especially, the bad ones). And, I reckon it: the linchpin of rights ...
by Greatest I am
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God given rights. Do you really have any?
Replies: 173
Views: 3167

Re: God given rights. Do you really have any?

If a right is given to a soul, by god, he would have a duty to ensure that they are never taken from us. The fact that they often are, indicates that he is shirking his duty. Non-sequitur, because as you point out, a "right" is the kind of thing that CAN be taken away...not legitimately , but illeg...
by Greatest I am
Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:37 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?
Replies: 31
Views: 794

Re: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?

Yes myths are retold and the intent is based on the moment of the telling. The myth is something selected for a purpose - to tell a story, or offer moral advice. If the myth does not fit, then another is chosen, or one is modified, fit for purpose. The original intention is lost and irrelevant. Los...
by Greatest I am
Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:04 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?
Replies: 31
Views: 794

Re: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?

Nonsense! To be crucified and "resurrected" was the ultimate trick to fool the naive and gullible that how has echoed for 2k years, he only hung there for 6 h when you LEAST hang there for a week if not months! A woman visited the tomb with healing salves, everything was arranged! Myths try to cove...
by Greatest I am
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God given rights. Do you really have any?
Replies: 173
Views: 3167

Re: God given rights. Do you really have any?

Age wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:58 am

God is NOT a "he", by the way, and NEVER was.
I will nor argue against this unprovable statement.

How can you know this as a fact? Have you accessed the supernatural realm where god resides?

Or was yout comment more of a knee jerk response?

Regards
DL
by Greatest I am
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: God given rights. Do you really have any?
Replies: 173
Views: 3167

Re: God given rights. Do you really have any?

Yes our individual thinking is formed by the societies we each individually live in. The saying Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness is usually just confined to those who live in the united states of america. It is not a saying usually said by peoples of other countries. So, I find it a coinc...
by Greatest I am
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:44 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?
Replies: 27
Views: 3153

Re: People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?

Evil. Why? I would say because the one true God declared through Moses and later Jesus "You shall have no other gods before me." Any attempts to overturn that are evil. Let's discuss the myth. Yahweh is shown as a genocidal and infanticidal god. Are you sure you cannot find a more moral god to put ...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?
Replies: 31
Views: 794

Re: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?

Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor? ... Regards DL Judas was set up. God as an omnipotent being could have stopped him. God as an omniscient being knew what he was doing. God the eternal made Judas to perform God's plan. God used Judas to put the hit on his own son. Judas was ...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?
Replies: 31
Views: 794

Re: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?

gaffo wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:32 pm

I ignore John in all things historical - when we have the Synoptics relating the same events, and which were earlier and so more accurate per events on the ground.
There is no history in a book with talking serpents and donkeys.

Regards
DL
by Greatest I am
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:05 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?
Replies: 31
Views: 794

Re: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?

FTPOV, Jesus was too much of a coward to tell his Temple authorities to bite him when turning himself in. Nonsense! To be crucified and "resurrected" was the ultimate trick to fool the naive and gullible that how has echoed for 2k years, he only hung there for 6 h when you LEAST hang there for a we...