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by Greatest I am
Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:50 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 14714

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

Minus the needlessly emotional language, you do have a sort of point in that Constantine was not a nice man. I would also agree with you that uniting politics with religion is never a good thing. But neither is uniting atheistic ideology with politics. Yet Constantine never killed anywhere near as ...
by Greatest I am
Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 14714

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

Actually, the very idea that there *was* a period known as"The Dark Ages" is under very serious attack from historians today. Apparently scholars of the period have long been insisting that there was little "dark" about those years -- they were full of energy, innovation, art, architecture and lear...
by Greatest I am
Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:53 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christia
Replies: 124
Views: 17780

Re: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Chri

It was my impression (from watching the video) that the Pope was directing his remarks to his own people in the Catholic church as well as those of other religions. I didn't see him as excusing Catholics from being disrespectful of other religions. Of course not. Showing that they are no better tha...
by Greatest I am
Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:16 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christia
Replies: 124
Views: 17780

Re: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Chri

"First, the RCC's position is not based on "human sacrifice," It is completely based on the human sacrifice of Jesus. To say that God was the one to die on the cross would be silly as we all know that God cannot die. Take Jesus' death and sacrifice out of the apostles creed and there is not Christia...
by Greatest I am
Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:12 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christia
Replies: 124
Views: 17780

Re: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Chri

"As far as I can tell, you're arguing for some sort of hedonist morality (there are no desires that would be sins were one to act on them)."

Get the quote that you think show this foolishness.

Regards
DL
by Greatest I am
Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:41 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 14714

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

[ You need to either review your history or use different terminology. It is largely accepted by church historians that "Christian literalism" is a recent invention, rising more or less alongside Biblical criticism. As for what ushered in the Dark Ages, it was the decline of the Roman Empire (which...
by Greatest I am
Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christia
Replies: 124
Views: 17780

Re: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Chri

It was my impression (from watching the video) that the Pope was directing his remarks to his own people in the Catholic church as well as those of other religions. I didn't see him as excusing Catholics from being disrespectful of other religions. Of course not. Showing that they are no better tha...
by Greatest I am
Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:16 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christia
Replies: 124
Views: 17780

Re: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Chri

[ The RCC has a coherent theological rationale for its existence. Again, you (and perhaps I) may not find it convincing, but that is not evidence of "evil." You consider it to be a craven ploy, but they consider it to be a genuine commitment to humanity's salvation form eternal damnation. That is e...
by Greatest I am
Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:11 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christia
Replies: 124
Views: 17780

Re: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Chri

True but if they recognized all their guilt for all their ongoing crimes and constant lying to us, they would stop. They continue and show that they have no social conscience and are evil. This is a matter of opinion. We can point to a good deal of what the RCC does that is demonstrably good and in...
by Greatest I am
Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:13 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 14714

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

I also just found this. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression It seems strange that he would advocate violence against words and then try to restrict the freedom of speech that society has worked so hard to bring to all nations and peoples. This wa...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:16 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 14714

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

Doc is right. In any subject even science there is religion, but you would of thought people would have grown beyond it by now, Christian or not. These days anything is really just talking about religious belief- when if we knew any better we would talk about religious relief, but we can not and wo...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 14714

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

We know that Christian literalism helped to usher in the Dark Ages and Inquisition. Before this hard line of locked thinking, various religions lived quite comfortably side by side. Not all the time of course, but generally speaking. You need to either review your history or use different terminolo...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:06 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?
Replies: 115
Views: 14714

Re: Was seeking God more pleasant before literalism?

I am active on 4 forums that have a large atheist membership and have found some interesting discussions. I have looked at Christian or Religious forums and have found that the members spend most of their time saying how wonderful their religion is or how wonderful other posters are. I have little ...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christia
Replies: 124
Views: 17780

Re: Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Chri

I'm not sure how this qualifies as an objection (before your edit), however. Assuming I've understood the original post correctly, the point was that it was somehow a wrong move on the part of Francis to criticize Muslim extremists for things that resemble past actions of the RCC. Maybe I've missed...