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by Greatest I am
Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:20 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

I don't think it matters much anymore if the Church discriminates against gays, because gays and the world have moved on, beyond the constraints of the Church. Life can be lived without the Church. And for many gays who remain religious, they have adjusted and learned to reconcile their life style ...
by Greatest I am
Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:48 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

[Evidence enough for the point I was making - is that there is no hard and fast doctrine and that the church believes nothing today that it will insist upon tomorrow. In the last 300 years or more it has followed changing public opinion on ethics and has not led it, at least in the West. This ought...
by Greatest I am
Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:43 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

[Evidence enough for the point I was making - is that there is no hard and fast doctrine and that the church believes nothing today that it will insist upon tomorrow. In the last 300 years or more it has followed changing public opinion on ethics and has not led it, at least in the West. This ought...
by Greatest I am
Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:21 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

[That would be a first. Doctrines, it seems are for changing. At least we don't burn witches any more. [/color] Burning may be out but not killing and child abuse. It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are Religionists. They all hurt their parent religions and every...
by Greatest I am
Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:17 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

Sounds like you expect the Church to walk it’s talk. Good luck with finding one that does. Regards DL Hi Greatest, I don't know if I am looking toward "man" in order to find "truth" or God. I see religion and the Church to be flawed because it is a man made concept. This is different from how I vie...
by Greatest I am
Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:56 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

In answer to the question does the church have the right to discriminate, seems obvious that the church has a right to stick to its doctrines. Sticking to your doctrines is not what this is about. The church preaches love thy neighbor. God preaches love the sinner not the sin. This means that the C...
by Greatest I am
Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:53 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

This is true to a point. The church can still, and still does, discriminate against gay marriage, and against gays becoming priests. Why shouldn`t it? after all its about the marriage of heterosexuals. If I was gay what would I be doing in an establishment that didn`t believe in my way of life? You...
by Greatest I am
Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:51 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

DL, I know a number of gays that don't see the bogyman around every corner like you do. They are generally comfortable with how they are treated by society at large. Certainly. Socio economic factors of all kinds apply. The point is, if society at large decide that to be Gay is quite all right, the...
by Greatest I am
Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:31 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

The failure to discriminate is the cause of most of the world's problems. Banning discrimination is just another step in the cultural suicide of the West. This does not make sense! It sounds like the world needs discrimination to succeed. It sounds like, if discrimination was banned in the West the...
by Greatest I am
Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:21 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

Of course it does. A club has the right to choose its members, a restaurant has the right to reject anyone as a customer. A person can refuse entry to another from their home. The right to discriminate is essential to a moral society. The problem for the state is that it doesn't have the right to d...
by Greatest I am
Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:06 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

For all the griping about homosexuals being discriminated against by this or that group, homosexuality has never been more accepted or acceptable in human history . I took a cruise the other day and they had a chapter of 'Friends of Dorothy' on board. It is quite common now to have these gay gather...
by Greatest I am
Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:36 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 19080

Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and above the state standards? The Gay marriage issue may be instrumental in the destruction of Church and Mosque discrimination without just cause against certain sub groups within our greater society. Notably, Gays, women, slaves and sexual pract...