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by Greatest I am
Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. some translations say "who wants" rather than "who will" either way if God wants something that is what is going to happen there is no biblical basis for eternal punishment in hell - but rather for univers...
by Greatest I am
Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:14 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

[ What you perceive is true and real, can you not accept that the same is true for other Perspectives as well? Some time back, I perceived much pain in my legs and thought it true and real. My legs were fine. My back was screwed up though. Sorry, I don't understand with what, or why, you are arguin...
by Greatest I am
Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:08 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

..nameless.. wrote:[
What you perceive is true and real, can you not accept that the same is true for other Perspectives as well?
Some time back, I perceived much pain in my legs and thought it true and real.

My legs were fine. My back was screwed up though.

Regards
DL
by Greatest I am
Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

God has nothing to do with the bible. You assume the existence of a 'God', ok, I'll go along for the ride. Assuming a God, that God must necessarily have 'God-like characteristics', be One with God's definition, like us all. An apple is that which fits the definition of an apple, no? One of the mos...
by Greatest I am
Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:41 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

You would think that a God could do better than humans. Now there's a topic that might be interesting to discuss. 'Perspective' has much to do with whatever you might mean by "better". Actually, I have discussed that with some theists and it goes nowhere. They admit that God is less moral than man ...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:44 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

[q You have misconceived Hell. The phrase in the Bible is burn in "everlasting fire", NOT burn everlastingly in fire. It's the fire that goes on forever , not the suffering. Once you are burned you are ashes. the fire continues because new 'souls' feeed the fire everyday. Yep. We are just firewood ...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:54 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

In case you haven't figured it out yet, there is no heaven or hell, or maybe you're mentally still living in the Stone Age. Such definitive statements is what makes non-believers sound as inexact as believers. I do not disagree but recognize that those like us who do not believe in a hell cannot pr...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:49 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

[q You have misconceived Hell. The phrase in the Bible is burn in "everlasting fire", NOT burn everlastingly in fire. It's the fire that goes on forever , not the suffering. Once you are burned you are ashes. the fire continues because new 'souls' feeed the fire everyday. Yep. We are just firewood ...
by Greatest I am
Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell? The purpose of the threat of Hell is the fascist/authoritarian means of keeping the 'rednecks' behavin' properly (more or less)! Yes. Quite human to use the carrot and stick mentality. You would think that a God could do better than humans. ...
by Greatest I am
Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:48 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

Not a bad philosophy but why would you use Jesus and his God for guidance? After all, God planned and executed the conditions to have hs own son murdered, when there was absolutely no need for it. That is insanity. It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. Th...
by Greatest I am
Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:06 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

Re: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell

bobevenson wrote:There is no Hell, O my brother in tribulation, and there should be no punishment here on Earth, only control against reocurrence.
Well said.

Regards
DL
by Greatest I am
Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:57 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?
Replies: 46
Views: 11740

What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?

What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell? My premise is that God would not create anything that is purposeless. If God’s everlasting hell is not serving a purpose, God would not create it since scripture says that God created all things for his pleasure and for himself. Punishment is...
by Greatest I am
Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:27 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 18970

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

They want to control everything from sex to diet to what we wear. They and Islam all want slaves and not free men. Perhaps, but the Churches are certainly not winning or having things their way! Just look at history and how things have swung Oscar Wilde's and Hugh Hefner's way. I get the impression...
by Greatest I am
Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:18 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 18970

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

So these should keep their focus on their own junc and let others find love where they will. To fixate on someone else's sexuality instead of one's own is rather a strange and unhealthy way to go through life. Have you thought of my junk today sweetheart? How about your neighbors junk. As they say,...
by Greatest I am
Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:29 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo
Replies: 97
Views: 18970

Re: Does the Church have the right to discriminate over and abo

How stupid and immoral then for the church then as it is cullpable in the murder of Gays by the homophobic that it creates. That homophobia is not just in the Church, and fed by the Church. It is also in individuals who think for themselves and are repulsed by the idea. So these should keep their f...