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by Skepdick
Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Logic is Grounded in Self Referential Tautologies
Replies: 32
Views: 5370

Re: Yawn.

Well Skepdick, as per the other thread, intelligence is one of those phenomena that has a name, but isn't entirely understood. To claim that it's a phenomenon is to imply that you, as a phenomenologist, have experienced/observed it. So, even if you don't understand it you have, at the very least, i...
by Skepdick
Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:03 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4064
Views: 179496

Re: FuQuine.

Slow down. You are in such a hurry to prove how smart you are, you make a fool of yourself. Why do you limit 'phenomenon' to the motion of the Earth and the Sun? I am not doing that You are erroneously attributing it to me. Which phenomenon is it that you think I am limiting? The discussion started...
by Skepdick
Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:19 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Logic is Grounded in Self Referential Tautologies
Replies: 32
Views: 5370

Re: Yawn.

You'd have to ask someone who believes in god. Not at all. I simply have to ask somebody who believes humans have intelligence. That's you then. Well, if you are referring to a material being, again, you'd have to ask someone who believes in such a creature. I am referring to "being" - the gerund (...
by Skepdick
Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:10 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4064
Views: 179496

Re: FuQuine.

Or as frequently happens, you observe a phenomenon and attach a name to it. "Frequently" my ass. I'm willing to bet a lot of money that you've never ever left Earth, so the probability of you having stood at a vantage point from which you can observe both Earth and the Sun at exactly the same time ...
by Skepdick
Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4064
Views: 179496

Re: FuQuine.

But you do not discover whether the Earth orbits the Sun by interpreting the words. Of course you do. Before you can determine whether X orbits Y, you kinda have to determine what it means for one thing to orbit another. You have to produce a predicate which approximately corresponds to a test proc...
by Skepdick
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:59 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Logic is Grounded in Self Referential Tautologies
Replies: 32
Views: 5370

Re: Yawn.

No they're not. 'Existence' and 'Reality' imply nothing; it's Parmenides 2500 year old observation that there isn't nothing - some shit exists. 'God' implies non human intelligence Ooooh! And what does "intelligence" imply? 'The Universe' suggests material being, So, are the semantics of "being" di...
by Skepdick
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:52 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Logic is Grounded in Self Referential Tautologies
Replies: 32
Views: 5370

Re: Logic is Grounded in Self Referential Tautologies

Not the way I was taught it it doesn't, the existential quantifier is ヨX and it says "There is at least one X" with the X standing for a variable in a predicate proposition, so ヨX(p(X)) ヨX(-p(X)) says there is at least one X that does satisfy the predicate of not P I think we are saying the same th...
by Skepdick
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:12 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Unavoidability of Belief within Reason
Replies: 189
Views: 30743

Re: The Unavoidability of Belief within Reason

The accuser is the accused. Q.E.D You can only think up to isomorphism. I use mathematics. That doesn't make me a mathematician. i. there is nothing wrong with equating things to 1. ii. there is nothing wrong with quantification. iii. numbers are both quantitative and qualitative. Numbers don't exi...
by Skepdick
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:58 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4064
Views: 179496

Re: FuQuine.

It's bleedin' obvious. The way you find out whether the Earth goes round the Sun is by looking at the evidence. No, you don't. You do it by interpreting the evidence against the axioms of your reference frame with respect to the meaning of the terms "orbit" and "around". In the strict and precise s...
by Skepdick
Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:13 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Feeling good is the only good thing in life
Replies: 1
Views: 2443

Re: Good and bad are nothing more than emotions

Hume was right, which makes the words in your title sound all too dismissive. "Nothing more than emotion"?

Intellectualism often tries to value reason at the expense of emotion all while failing to acknowledge that without emotion, reason is impotent.
by Skepdick
Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:22 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Unavoidability of Belief within Reason
Replies: 189
Views: 30743

Re: The Unavoidability of Belief within Reason

If light weren't a fixed constant, it would have nothing to "return" to once unimpeded. Just because water impedes on light doesn't mean the rate isn't fixed. It literally does. It means the speed of light is contextual. It's X in one context. And Y in another context. You are treating "ideal vacuu...
by Skepdick
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:20 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4064
Views: 179496

Re: What could make morality objective?

At this point, anybody who is not intellectually dishonest can see this. The wrongness of slavery is as objectively true as the Earth orbiting the Sun. Peter probably believes it too, but he's too embarrassed to admit he was wrong. So, the factual assertion '̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶a̶r̶t̶h̶ ̶o̶r̶b̶i̶t̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶...
by Skepdick
Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Let’s chat about the atheist religion.
Replies: 143
Views: 17130

Re: Let’s chat about the atheist religion.

Greatest I am wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:54 pm I see mostly the same ideas, be they political or religious, with the fight being over the detail of the policies.

We are all the same basic model, like it or not.

Regards
DL
Pretty much. We are disguising our agendas (policies) in narratives.

Same thought-patterns - different languages.
by Skepdick
Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:53 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4064
Views: 179496

Re: What could make morality objective?

For posterity and consistency. So, the factual assertion '̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶a̶r̶t̶h̶ ̶o̶r̶b̶i̶t̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶u̶n̶'̶ 'slavery is wrong' would be false - given the way we use those words in context - if ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶a̶r̶t̶h̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶n̶'̶t̶,̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶f̶a̶c̶t̶,̶ ̶o̶r̶b̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶u̶n̶.̶ if slavery isn't, i...
by Skepdick
Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:47 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 4064
Views: 179496

Re: What could make morality objective?

I agree that you can't add anything to this conversation. So why not let someone else have a go? I am adding plenty to the conversation. I said that YOU don't need me. I can't add anything into a mind that's already full. The wrongness of slavery is as objectively true as the Earth orbiting the Sun...