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by Skepdick
Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Logic of Information: A Theory of Philosophy as Conceptual Design
Replies: 0
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The Logic of Information: A Theory of Philosophy as Conceptual Design

https://ndpr.nd.edu/news/the-logic-of-information-a-theory-of-philosophy-as-conceptual-design/ Who, if not a philosopher, could believe and argue that the maker of an artefact knows it less well than its user? Try that next time your car breaks down and needs to be repaired. Plato was right in stres...
by Skepdick
Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

henry quirk wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:40 pm
No. We can, do, have subjective takes on what's there, what exists.
Precisely! And that's ALL we have.

A subjective take.
by Skepdick
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

What we say has to be coherent It is coherent. TO ME. It may be incoherent. TO YOU. , but coherence theories of truth are as ridiculous as correspondence theories. So, no, I'm not a coherentist. Then why do you EXPECT my perspective to be coherent in your frame of reference? Truth isn't a 'thing' t...
by Skepdick
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

So I expect you mean your objection to the idea of objectivity comes from the actual nature of knowledge. But that's a metaphysical delusion. Language/Logic/Mathematics is metaphysics. Because we USE language as representational instrument for our perception. If metaphysics is a "delusion" then sto...
by Skepdick
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: we apprehend the world, we don't create it

I process the information in the light apprehended by my eyes. Information is a Mathematical equation. It's a quantity, not a quality It's a concept - a useful concept, but it's not real in the sense that you are using the word. It's just a language, a conceptual framework for understanding/navigat...
by Skepdick
Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

comes from some kind of idealism. It comes from epistemology and its fundamental limits Obviously, if we don't start with 'features of reality' - which includes ourselves, our brains, our perceptions and our language - then any talk of truth and falsehood, of facts and opinions, is mistaken, as Ske...
by Skepdick
Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Ginkgo wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:21 am
interesting conservation. Sounds a lot like perceptual realism v subjective idealism.
"Perceptual realism" is epistemology.

Everything that is known or knowable is perceptual and therefore subjective.
by Skepdick
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: "you don't see heat. You feel heat. With your skin."

The information, the quality, most folks call 'hot' is in the thing , not me. My assessments, my measurements are in my head. They ARE in your head - that's precisely the point I am making. No, Skep, the qualities, the information is in the thing external to me. I apprehend the info, I don't create...
by Skepdick
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:55 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re:

mebbe so, but between 'there' and 'here' (the human scale) the trickiness gets tamped down quite a bit. Why? Because physics doesn't apply at human scale! Things exist What things, Henry? Isn't that precisely the question Physics is trying to answer? , they exist independent of me; information abou...
by Skepdick
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: "you don't see heat. You feel heat. With your skin."

and that heat exists even if i don't feel it, name it or know of it It doesn't... heat is energy transfer. If there's no body to transfer the energy to - there is no heat. the quality we call 'hotness' is in the heat, not my skin No, Henry. ALL qualities are in your head. By definition. Physics dea...
by Skepdick
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: we apprehend the world, we don't create it

""Light" is not apprehended by your eyes. Photons strike your retina. This generates electrical impulses which your brain interprets. That is what you call "light"." Half a dozen of one, six of the other. It's the whole 9 yards actually. Because physicists aren't all that certain whether photons "e...
by Skepdick
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: Re:

henry quirk wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:07 pm
"Coffee doesn't concern itself with its "existence"."

No, it just sits there, existing.
Coffee doesn't concern itself with "sitting" either.
by Skepdick
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:03 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: we apprehend the world, we don't create it

I process the information in the light apprehended by my eyes. "Light" is not apprehended by your eyes. Photons strike your retina. This generates electrical impulses which your brain interprets. That is what you call "light". Nope. The names, the assessments, the meaning I apply to the information...
by Skepdick
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:56 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

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I don't need physics to know the coffee I'm drinkin' is real, exists, and exists independent of me. (like the quality in light we call color ). Coffee doesn't concern itself with its "realness", "existence" and "independence". Those are all human concepts. They only exist in your head. Like color.
by Skepdick
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 347
Views: 9593

Re: we apprehend the world, we don't create it

And we assigns names to things. 'Apple' can refer to a category or to the specific example I bite into. As category name 'apple' is a bit abstracted, as signifier for a specifc example, it's concrete. The thing you bite into is concrete, but it's not an "apple". At the level of biology - it's a bun...