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by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

How many shades of blue are there ? An infinite number on a colour chart is obviously impossible but you can still point to the one that approximates the most closely what you can actually see so it doesnt have to be EXACTLY the same shade just the best representation It's not impossible. The light...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:48 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

Not every human thinks murder is wrong and not every human would label it as murder For what about someone who is mentally ill ? What about someone who is a psycopath ? What about someone experiencing a temporary loss of sanity in the heat of the moment ? Red herring. Not every person thinks the sk...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

surreptitious57 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:23 pm
We use a colour chart which has the full spectrum of blue to tell each other which one is closest to ours
And we will both point at the block which corresponds to the color of the sky.

But observe the ambiguity in your words. "the full spectrum of blue" ?

How many shades of "blue" are there?
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

Every physicist knows what frequency means in relation to the electromagnetic spectrum and what is light There is no confusion here due to ambiguous definitions or subjective interpretations just total agreement Every human knows what "blue" means. Every human knows what "murder" means. Every human...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

Blue like any colour is on a spectrum ranging from the very dark to the very light and everything in between So different people seeing different shades of the same colour through their retina is not actually a problem They can qualify their observation by saying what shade they are seeing so other...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

It is blue because that particular colour frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum is what is reflected within the retina of my eye Trichromats ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichromacy ) perceive different frequencies to Tetrachromats ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy ) perceive a d...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

Can you give both the definition of and an example of a moral fact ? And in what specific way do moral facts differ from non moral facts ? I don't know. Peter can define them for you - I am not a stickler for definitions. My point is that if you have a machine that can answer yes/no questions (e.g ...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

Do you have any methodology that can differentiate between what you label as facts and non facts ? Yes we do Then why not use it ? Well that is PRECISELY what I am doing. I am USING the system! If the system can answer the yes/no question "Is X a fact?" then The system can answer the yes/no questio...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 247
Views: 3178

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

I tried my best to make them formally valid, so on this account I'm doing better than the three people I quoted. You can't make them "formally valid" because you can't satisfy the decidability criterion without being upfront about the semantics you are defaulting to. There are dozens of modal logic...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Poll on the validity of two arguments
Replies: 247
Views: 3178

Re: Poll on the validity of two arguments

So, whether there is a " we " and whether it knows anything is completely irrelevant. Just assume it does, using the usual definitions of the words used in the argument as can be found in any English dictionary. EB So the purpose of this entire thread is to determine how people interpret words defi...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

We dont have to talk about reality but do so because we have the ability to and are naturally curious The purpose it serves is to make us understand it more through science / mathematics / philosophy Facts and truth do not disappear if we remain silent because they are contained within the physical...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

Proofs of impossibility are amongst the greatest achievements of science. They tell us what is a pipe dream, a pie in the sky! Proofs of impossibility tell us which of our ideals are a waste of time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_of_impossibility Among the most important proofs of impossibilit...
by Logik
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:54 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 1634
Views: 33406

Re: What could make morality objective?

In the attempt to demolish the distinction between facts and opinions - which, paradoxically, demolishes the case for moral objectivism - the following quotation has been offered without critique, as though it's undeniably true. (I omit the shouty graphic emphasis.) 'Unlike deductive arguments, ind...
by Logik
Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:51 pm
Forum: Gender Philosophy
Topic: Islam for Feminism?
Replies: 33
Views: 549

Re: Islam for Feminism?

A Muslim in according to the Quran - the ultimate constitution of Islam - is a person who has entered into a contract/covenant implicitly or explicitly with Allah with a promise of eternal life in Paradise. I've never read anything other than English translations of the Quran, but since what VA say...
by Logik
Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: ((P=P) = (-P = -P)) → ¬ (P ∨ -P)
Replies: 21
Views: 375

Re: ((P=P) = (-P = -P)) → ¬ (P ∨ -P)

Good then the most universal construct is the Munchauseen Trillema and its self cancelization into a Prime Triad as the foundation of all contexts. No idea what that means. ⊙ If simplicity is what you are after a dot is simpler. Not very useful, but simpler. Then all context exists as one context. ...