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by Logik
Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:43 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

I am more moral than your God. I bow to no "omnipotence" that stands by idly. Those are both statements made by Atheists. No. They are statements made by an agnostic. Me. As far as I can tell I am a closer to a Christian (to the image of Jesus - who actually helps people) than either of you two.
by Logik
Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:42 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

thedoc wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:42 am
Logik wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:27 am
All the more reason to live forever!

If I don't die he can't Judge me.
You don't know that, your only speculating.
You don't know that there is a god either - and yet people base their entire life on that speculation.
by Logik
Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:40 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Eliminating Undecidability and Incompleteness in Formal Systems
Replies: 49
Views: 486

Re: Eliminating Undecidability and Incompleteness in Formal Systems

They aren't just marks drawn. They are relations between finite strings specified in a computer that can process these relations as if they were thoughts in a mind. I don't have the energy or patience anymore. Languages are more than just strings and relations. They are open systems . They function...
by Logik
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:43 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Eliminating Undecidability and Incompleteness in Formal Systems
Replies: 49
Views: 486

Re: Eliminating Undecidability and Incompleteness in Formal Systems

PeteOlcott wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:37 am

Weasel wording head games.
No. Just satisfying this bar for "proof" as established by Curry-Howard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry%E2% ... espondence
by Logik
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:27 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

Immanuel Can wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:17 pm
Then I guess we'll see how that works out for you.

But I wouldn't do that.
All the more reason to live forever!

If I don't die he can't Judge me.
by Logik
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:09 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Eliminating Undecidability and Incompleteness in Formal Systems
Replies: 49
Views: 486

Re: Eliminating Undecidability and Incompleteness in Formal Systems

You seem to be just playing head games. I really don't have time for that. A physical system (called a computer) has DECIDED (via an algorithm that you can examine) that True ⇔ False I have satisfied the decidability criterion despite your objections. What "games" do you think I am playing? If you ...
by Logik
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:52 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Paradoxes of Material Implication
Replies: 62
Views: 537

Re: Paradoxes of Material Implication

wtf wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:28 pm
Are you saying that Speakpigeon hasn't got a pair?
Can't say. He has show us only one so far. :lol: :lol: :lol:
by Logik
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:51 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Eliminating Undecidability and Incompleteness in Formal Systems
Replies: 49
Views: 486

Re: Eliminating Undecidability and Incompleteness in Formal Systems

PeteOlcott wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:19 pm
You are not allowed to [correctly] say: (True ⇔ False)
My Ruby interpreter still disagrees with you.

What is your criterion for "correctness"?
by Logik
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:47 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Tarski Undefinability Theorem Succinctly Refuted
Replies: 96
Views: 980

Re: Tarski Undefinability Theorem Reexamined

That is theoretical physics where does experimental physics lie in this model? Not at all. Park physics aside for a second. Language (logos, logic) is a tool for self-expression. A tool for describing/narrating your own experiences. So if you can construct poetry with English, you can construct poe...
by Logik
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

That depends. You can stand on your own "goodness," or you can accept His. But you cannot do both. And if you do the former, then you have excellent reason to worry. Then I guess I will just have to go right ahead and say it. I am more moral than your God. I bow to no "omnipotence" that stands by i...
by Logik
Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:18 pm
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Paradoxes of Material Implication
Replies: 62
Views: 537

Re: Paradoxes of Material Implication

Proof by empirical fact. Good science. So not only are you logically challenged, you are empirically challenged too? Science/empiricism doesn't prove anything Science tests hypotheses . You can't test a lone hypothesis. You require at least a pair. What is your alternative hypothesis to "Human logi...
by Logik
Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

Immanuel Can wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:31 pm
"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us..."
Then I guess I have nothing to worry about.

It's not up to me - it's up to him.
by Logik
Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

The life expectancy has doubled in the last 200 years not 300 years. You are an extreme optimist and unrealistic at that. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You are arguing my point! Do you even understand what the word "optimist" means? I said Team Humanity took 300 years, when it actually took 2...
by Logik
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

Immanuel Can wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:10 pm
Indeed.

I wonder what you will say. It certainly won't be what you wrote above.
What is it that you are going to say? "I rode a moral high horse against free will. I could've worked on problems that actually matter to Humanity but didn't."
by Logik
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?
Replies: 174
Views: 1359

Re: Why do theists and atheists insist that if there is a God that it created the universe?

I will gladly come before your God and tell him "I doubled human life expectancy. I cured cancer. I prevented death." I was not aware you did any of those things. Me? No! WE are all working towards those things. Everybody who contributes to the prosperity of Humanity. My contributions to computatio...