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by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Universe can't be infinite.
Replies: 572
Views: 16743

Re: Universe can't be infinite.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that this is true for the entire universe. After all spacetime probably isn't fundamental. The entire universe is probably quantum, but spacetime may only be a local feature of the part of the universe that comes from the Big Bang and ends in the Big Crunch. Space-time is...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:44 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Universe can't be infinite.
Replies: 572
Views: 16743

Re: Universe can't be infinite.

TimeSeeker wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:43 pm
devans99 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:40 pm
The fabric of the universe is allowed to expand at FTL, the contents of the universe are not.
What? Lol.

So the fabric of the universe is allowed to breaks its own laws?
Its not breaking its own laws, the law governs the contents not the fabric of the universe.
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:42 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Universe can't be infinite.
Replies: 572
Views: 16743

Re: Universe can't be infinite.

The universe is expanding so it cannot be infinite in space else there would be nowhere to expand to. Infinity is the problem: it's larger than any possible thing. Yet we require it to expand; implying it was not larger than any possible thing. Also, the universe started with the Big Bang 14 Billio...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Universe can't be infinite.
Replies: 572
Views: 16743

Re: Universe can't be infinite.

You keep abandoning the mathematical truth and keep relying on your conceptual (instinctive) 'truth'. If the universe is accelerating its expansion at SOME point it will be expanding faster than the speed of light. Sooooo. That 'limit' you spoke about speed = distance/time. Is it real or....? The f...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Universe can't be infinite.
Replies: 572
Views: 16743

Re: Universe can't be infinite.

You're not saying anything. We can't tell for certain whether or not the material world goes on forever or not. It doesn't have to be logical to us. Reality is a far as we can tell, deeply logical. Infinity is deeply illogical. Would we expect then to find infinity in reality? Actual Infinity is no...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:25 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Universe can't be infinite.
Replies: 572
Views: 16743

Re: Universe can't be infinite.

You're not saying anything. We can't tell for certain whether or not the material world goes on forever or not. It doesn't have to be logical to us. Reality is a far as we can tell, deeply logical. Infinity is deeply illogical. Would we expect then to find infinity in reality? Actual Infinity is no...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 5562

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

No idea but its expanding, which means it must be finite in size. OK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_the_universe While special relativity prohibits objects from moving faster than light with respect to a local reference frame where spacetime can be treated as flat and unchanging, it do...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:13 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 5562

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

TimeSeeker wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:57 am
devans99 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:49 am
time = distance / speed
I see. So at what speed is the universe expanding?
No idea but its expanding, which means it must be finite in size.
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:13 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 5562

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

What is TIME a function of? Time is simply a man made construct pertaining to the number of events occurring in various substrates of matter. Time is fundamental to the universe. The speed of light speed limit (speed = distance / TIME) is obeyed by every particle in the universe and exists independ...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:04 pm
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Universe can't be infinite.
Replies: 572
Views: 16743

Re: Universe can't be infinite.

Because infinity is not a quantity, real life physical things like the size of the universe, the age of the universe; these are quantities so they are never equal to actual infinity (because its not a quantity). Hence the multiverse would be finite in size. That doesn't follow at all. Mathemathical...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:49 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 5562

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

TimeSeeker wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:45 am
The DEFINITION of 'speed' is man-made. the DEFINITION of speed is distance over TIME.

So speed is a FUNCTION of distance and time.

What is TIME a function of?
No the definition of speed is built into the fabric of the universe.

time = distance / speed
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:46 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Universe can't be infinite.
Replies: 572
Views: 16743

Re: Universe can't be infinite.

Mathematical infinity isn't a quantity, it's a concept, basically unrelated to the physical world. And whether or not our universe is finite says nothing about the multiverse. But what makes you think other universes would be any different to this one? Well, that's what a multiverse means usually. ...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:42 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 5562

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

TIME ITSELF is metaphysical bullshit. A dimension. OK. How many dimensions of time are there? Time is not metaphysical bullshit: the speed of light speed limit (speed = distance / TIME) is obeyed by every particle in the universe and exists independently of change. To be a normally functioning univ...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Universe can't be infinite.
Replies: 572
Views: 16743

Re: Universe can't be infinite.

You are just avoiding the contingencies in your model. If the universe was 'cyclical' you haven't dodged the problem of infinity! How many cycles has it been since the First Bang? How many cycles until the Final Crunch? Or are we to expect infinite cycles? The universe is a finite circle in the tim...
by devans99
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:36 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.
Replies: 126
Views: 5562

Re: Before sliding down the bannister supported by Occam's Razor, wear iron pants.

Seconds/years are man-made units. If two things can happen simultaneously AND independently from each other is time is a vector not a plane? You wouldn't be AWARE if time was flowing backwards. The Big Bang (I mean Crunch) is yet to happen! [/quote] Yes but time itself is not manmade. And it comes ...