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by RCSaunders
Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:12 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

You believe you must, "know the inner states of others," or, "detect the inner life of your companions," before it is possible to enjoy a mutually beneficial relationship with them, socially or commercially, or any other way. I do not. You're misunderstanding what I'm pointing to. I'm not pointing ...
by RCSaunders
Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:23 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

IC, we are not going to agree on these things ... For we live in social groups, and depend very much on externals to know the inner states of others. To ignore all that would make oneself a social cripple, an incompetent in negotiation, and a liability in any social arrangement. And for all our fail...
by RCSaunders
Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

Here's how what you mean by seeing is different from what I mean. You seem to mean that what you see is not complete, that in some way, everything that is before your eyes is either not captured or not included in your final conscious, "picture," of what you are seeing. Oh, I think that's evidently...
by RCSaunders
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

Hi again, IC I really appreciate the conversation. I especially appreciate the back-and-forth of grappling with complicated ideas. So do I, and I appreciate your courteous sincerity. If I have been inoffensive, it has been entirely accidental, but I'm glad it seems that way to you. When I use the te...
by RCSaunders
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:58 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

Hi IC, I'm only going to address two points: what perception means and authority. I have never been fooled by what I see, and neither has anyone else. What one sees, they see. Actually, people have. They are, all the time. They think they "see" things that they have not seen. Jordan Peterson mention...
by RCSaunders
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

An object has "features." For example, a rock may be 2m across. But the quality of being "large" or "heavy" is not something intrinsic to being a 2m rock, but rather an attribution of "quality" based on that feature. Being a 2m rock makes it "large" or "heavy" for throwing, but "small" and "light" ...
by RCSaunders
Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

Oh, I think it's nowhere near so grim as that. Let's simplify: ... "Qualities" are properties attributed to things (examples, "redness," truthfulness") I'm afraid it is just as "grim" as I said it is, perhaps "futile" would be better. Qualities are not just, "attributed," to things. If a quality is...
by RCSaunders
Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

Hi IC, I'm not going to discuss every issue because I think there are some fundamental differenes we have that make the discussion of some things impossible such as the following: But "qualities" are not per se existents. They are only human evaluations of aspects of existents. This is why any discu...
by RCSaunders
Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

What bank? And how did we get it? Or do you believe we are born with some kind of innate knowledge? As I've already said, the "bank" is composed of things learned from parents, culture and personal experiences...whether or not we should add to that the innate is a good question, but most psychologi...
by RCSaunders
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

In my view of concepts there is no corresponding conscious experience reflecting or representing existents. The only purpose or function of a concept is to identify existents the concept refers to. I understand. What I'm pointing out is that it is not really "the same existents" (the specific exist...
by RCSaunders
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Past, PRESENT--future?
Replies: 106
Views: 1390

Re: Past, PRESENT--future?

... Everything happens now and it is always now. Time passing is dynamic moments of now, now, now---. Hi Richard, I think you have asked an interesting question which deserves consideration because it touches on so many things. First, what do you mean by past? If you mean things that existed or hap...
by RCSaunders
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

Hi IC, There is fundamental difference in what we mean by language, and in particulare, by a concept. Most of our other disagreements can be reduced to that difference, so I'm going to address that issue. Concepts An "apple" does put a specifying ( by which I mean not "the same" but "specifying a co...
by RCSaunders
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:01 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

Well that was quick, IC. I think I'll take a little longer to respond. Perhaps it's me, but I am a little confused about what you actually mean. For example: Identify does not mean reproduce something, or have a picture or image of something, or explaining something. Identify only means to indicate,...
by RCSaunders
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

You two guys are members of a very selective collective. There are just two of you and you have a certain reverence for each other. Interesting, but do you practice what you pre 8) ach? Hi Jay, It's kind of a sad commentary when civil discourse is considered unusual, don't you think? One does not h...
by RCSaunders
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Individualism vs. Collectivism
Replies: 378
Views: 6103

Re: Individualism vs. Collectivism

A concept does not mean its definition, a concept means whatever actual existent or category of existents it identifies. Yes, that's true; it does. So far, so good! but... But the relation of concept to existent is not direct. It is not the case that the concept "apple" automatically produces in hu...